Other than "the bible says so," Christians have no valid argument why the behavior is wrong. If someone wants to argue that homosexuality is unnatural, consider the fact that there are over 400 species where homosexuality is common, and only one species is anti-homosexual.
"Natural" can have different definitions. It can be argued the female human bodies genetic purpose is reproduction as well as the male, it would be unnatural for men to have sex with men
I remember my physical anthropology professor stating it was the male goal to impregnate as many women as possible and the woman's to be impregnated as many times as possible
It is a function of nature to reproduce
BTW dogs hump legs not because it's natural but because their hormones are raging and they are confused. They are not exhibiting "tibiasexuality". It's natural for them to procreate with other dogs
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None of you are qualified to talk about this subject from an intellectual position. I'm willing to venture and say that none of you have ever spoken to someone who is homosexual and got to know them personally. I'm appalled at the bigotry in this thread.
hahahaha sorry but that is a funny comment to me. My ex husband is gay and we have been friends since he was 11 and I was 13. We are still friends but he knows that I believe what the bible says about it (he used to believe the same thing) and although I feel he has the right to choose to live his life the way he wants that does not make it right. If God says it is wrong..then it is wrong.
None of you are qualified to talk about this subject from an intellectual position. I'm willing to venture and say that none of you have ever spoken to someone who is homosexual and got to know them personally. I'm appalled at the bigotry in this thread.
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hahahaha sorry but that is a funny comment to me. My ex husband is gay and we have been friends since he was 11 and I was 13. We are still friends but he knows that I believe what the bible says about it (he used to believe the same thing) and although I feel he has the right to choose to live his life the way he wants that does not make it right. If God says it is wrong..then it is wrong.
Ive been friends with one who was gay and another that was Bi.
The one who was gay chose to live for the Lord and has since gone home to be with Jesus
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Ive been friends with one who was gay and another that was Bi.
The one who was gay chose to live for the Lord and has since gone home to be with Jesus
Oh Prax that is wonderful! I pray so hard that my ex (my friend..I don't like the word "ex" lol) will also choose that path. Your comment gives me hope.
None of you are qualified to talk about this subject from an intellectual position.
Yes, I am.
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I'm willing to venture and say that none of you have ever spoken to someone who is homosexual and got to know them personally.
Yes, I have.
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Originally Posted by Dante
I'm appalled at the bigotry in this thread.
There's certainly some, but for the most part this conversation has been good.
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Reason: blah blah blah I want to say so many things I shouldn't.
None of you are qualified to talk about this subject from an intellectual position. I'm willing to venture and say that none of you have ever spoken to someone who is homosexual and got to know them personally. I'm appalled at the bigotry in this thread.
Really?
I'm a minister in Fort Lauderdale Florida.
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None of you are qualified to talk about this subject from an intellectual position. I'm willing to venture and say that none of you have ever spoken to someone who is homosexual and got to know them personally. I'm appalled at the bigotry in this thread.
you are speaking nonsense.
All of us here are qualified to talk about this subject, for all of us have intellect.
you are not the only one with knowledge and brains.
I have personally worked side by side with many homosexuals and got to know them without "knowing them".
I am quite sure many people here also have known homosexuals, without having to approve of their lifestyle choice, for it is indeed a choice.
you consider it bigotry, But this is God's point of view and God is not going to change in order to conform to some political correctness.
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When two of the same sex want to get married, the purpose it is serving is to fulfill lust, . . .
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