__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
"They" get to claim that gay marriage is only about lust. But their hero Paul says he doesn't recommend marrying unless you really want sex. And please, nobody deny that's what he meant. It's clear. Don't marry. Unless you can't "contain" -- better to have sex in marriage, the only God-approved sex there is.
I didn't claim Paul had the same advice for gays. Why would I? I don't need to! It has nothing to do with my point.
SMH.
Paul isn't talking to just anyone, he is talking to young people, and he isn't talking to homosexuals.
Timmy where in the Bible do they address homosexual marriage? You brought up 1st Corinthians 7:9 to use as a defense for your arguments against KBTW. Therefore I asked you about the Biblical advise to homosexuals? If young people in a Roman world were getting that sort of advice from the Apostle what about the homosexuals, what advise were they getting on marriage from the church?
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Paul isn't talking to just anyone, he is talking to young people, and he isn't talking to homosexuals.
Timmy where in the Bible do they address homosexual marriage? You brought up 1st Corinthians 7:9 to use as a defense for your arguments against KBTW. Therefore I asked you about the Biblical advise to homosexuals? If young people in a Roman world were getting that sort of advice from the Apostle what about the homosexuals, what advise were they getting on marriage from the church?
I give up.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
No Shame on you and all the homosexuals for disregarding what God has already commanded.
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I hope everyone here is honest enough to acknowledge that every time someone says "God said" or "God commanded", that is really a shortened way of saying "Someone said that God said" or "Someone said that God commanded". Every single time. You do know that, right?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I hope everyone here is honest enough to acknowledge that every time someone says "God said" or "God commanded", that is really a shortened way of saying "Someone said that God said" or "Someone said that God commanded". Every single time. You do know that, right?
aren't you supposed to be out there getting tattooed in the brain with some sharp stick?
go do that and perhaps you will be able to think straighter.
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**Original Matthew 28:19 Restored**
For the original question, the only angle one can address this with is that GOD says so in His Word. There isn't any other angle.
One has to PURPOSEFULLY CHOOSE to live for the Lord. They have to count the cost, know what is involved, realize what it means, and then "take up their cross."
I personally believe it is possible for a person to be born gay, but being born a sinner does not exclude anyone from God's command that we all must be born again.
Too many people look at homosexuals, their thoughts, feelings, actions, as if they are something all together different from other sinners with a sin problem who also must experience a change of mind about their sin and eventually a change of lifestyle.
Most sinners don't change overnight. Although it is possible, it doesn't happen that way, most of the time. The fact that the change doesn't happen overnight doesn't exempt any sinner, regardless of their sin struggle, from the command to be changed by the Power of the Holy Ghost.
The sinner who has had a change of mind about their sins must be changed and the source of that change must be the Power of God working in their life. Anything short of GOD working in our lives will lead us to frustration and a spiritual dead end.
Notice my use of the phrase, "change of mind". I feel free to use that phrase since the Bible teaches us plainly that we are SAVED by Faith through Grace. Sanctification is a process and our salvation is a lifelong work of the Holy Ghost in our lives-- but our salvation has a definite begining point and that point is at FAITH, meaning that a person can indeed be saved and yet in a state of struggle with sin, any sin. GOD will lead the believer to a place of victory as they walk out their new life in FAITH.
Many homosexuals I know aren't even trying to live for God because they too think their sin puts them in a special class of exemption because they may have been born gay and thus they have no power over their nature when, according to scripture, there isn't a sinner who has sufficient power over their sinful nature to save themselves.
EVERYONE needs Jesus and without following His Way, there isn't any salvation.
For the person who has had a change of mind about a sin, but continues to struggle, I believe the scripture to be especially comforting when it declares to the Apostle Paul, "My Grace is sufficient." Still, it is God's Will and ultimately, every person who struggles with a sin will be brought to a place of victory by the Grace of God and the Power of the Holy Ghost.
We shall "overcome by the Blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony."
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"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
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