Mark of the beast idea

[Sean]

Originally Posted by shag

Revelation 1:1

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must NOT shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John,



Ok, I fixed it.

Thanks Shag, now please show me when these events ALREADY happened please. Thanks.....

Revelation 16

16 1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.

5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.

6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

[shag]

Originally Posted by Sean

Thanks Shag, now please show me when these events ALREADY happened please. Thanks.....

Revelation 16

16 1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.

5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.

6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Don't care how it happened. And, no matter what I said, you wouldn't believe it.
Now, What is the purpose of God having the phrase "shortly take place", in the first verse, and "the time is near", in the 3rd verse?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by shag

Don't care how it happened.
Now, What is the purpose of God having the phrase "shortly take place", in the first verse, and "the time is near", in the 3rd verse, if it's not true?

Not even a little hint? Please?

[shag]

Originally Posted by Sean

Not even a little hint? Please?

Lol...if I took a stab, would ya believe me?

[shag]

Originally Posted by shag

Don't care how it happened. And, no matter what I said, you wouldn't believe it.
Now, What is the purpose of God having the phrase "shortly take place", in the first verse, and "the time is near", in the 3rd verse?

Bump

[Sean]

Originally Posted by shag

Lol...if I took a stab, would ya believe me?

Hey bro. I am not being closed minded with preterists here. I just keep trying to figure out exactly where they are coming from.

They only show us a little at a time. They get us used to the shock slowly but surely. If they would come clean with their "deep" teachings in the beginning, folks would run away.

[Sean]

Quote:
Originally Posted by shag View Post
Revelation 1:1

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must NOT shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John,



Ok, I fixed it.






Okay, I fixed it guys...this is regarding the soon return of Jesus in the days of the Apostles...

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


Looks like Peter could have known something that he wanted all to see here

[shag]

Originally Posted by shag

Don't care how it happened. And, no matter what I said, you wouldn't believe it.
Now, What is the purpose of God having the phrase "shortly take place", in the first verse, and "the time is near", in the 3rd verse?

I ask again. Serious question, why not leave it out?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by shag

I ask again. Serious question, why not leave it out?

Just tell me when the Lord returned, if he "shortly" returned already bro.

Just a hint...Please?

[shag]

Originally Posted by Sean

Just tell me when the Lord returned, if he "shortly" returned already bro.

Just a hint...Please?

U got it. But after I do, answer my questions. I'm index finger typing on a iPhone 5, and my wife just rented "captain Phillips", so it'll be a while, (but I'll get to it.)