UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You would like my book on Prophecy, called THY KINGDOM CAME, for a whole huge section of it is on the resurrection. And you might get the rest of your prophecy straightened out, too.

Or see here:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=47038

Yikes.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Aquila

LOL

Hey... at least as her husband he knows her capabilities. lol

I googled her.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I fully understand your point about the young pastor not using wisdom.

However, as to her past coming back to haunt her... Yes, obviously she has done some wild and sinful things. But I think anyone who would look up that junk from her past to hold it against her is acting worse than she was in her past.

All a young teen boy will have to do is google and then fantasize about his pastor's wife! Surely the congregation will know about her past. Would the kid be a horrible person because he or she was curious?

[Jermyn Davidson]

I think they are moving too quickly.

I hope nothing but the best for them-- including a postponement of their marriage for at least another 365 days.

You know, they put this out in the public for public discussion...


smh

[canam]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I am a fairly new at pastoring and in the short 1 and half years I have pastored I have recognized the stress on the pastors home. The church often times doesn't confront the pastor directly with issues; they often first go to his wife with problems. My wife's phone rings as much if not more than mine with church issues. Often the pastors wife is expected to be like and elder to the ladies in the church. I know that biblically there is nothing said of a pastors wife, but in today's church culture there is much respnsibility placed on her whether she likes it or not.

This young pastor must work doubly hard to protect his new wife from the tensions placed on a pastors family. I think that he overlooked logic in doing this, but if God is in it they will be fine. I personally think that unmarried people who are seeking to be married should wait for a pastorate until they have gotten their personal lives straight because it isn't ussually good for the church or their family introducing someone new into the picture.

This my opinion, but God sometimes defies logic and I hope this is a God thing.

It depends on the pastor in my experience ,some pastors wives have there fingers in everything and the pastor discusses everything with her , and it gets yacked about at the supper table with the kids listening, which i think is very wrong imo, my current pastor ? just the opposite she has her activities in the church, but anything to do with advice goes to her husband and she is blissfully unaware of anything that is said, which i like very much !!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

All a young teen boy will have to do is google and then fantasize about his pastor's wife! Surely the congregation will know about her past. Would the kid be a horrible person because he or she was curious?

Surely you don't think this will happen?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

All a young teen boy will have to do is google and then fantasize about his pastor's wife! Surely the congregation will know about her past. Would the kid be a horrible person because he or she was curious?

Sigh. What does this scenario really have to do with anything? I agree with others that the relationship has potential issues and that it's moving very quickly and that it may very well be terribly mismatched (and it also could work out beautifully and become a great testament to God's power to revolutionize a life and use it to His glory). However, that does NOT mean her past should be used against her or that it excuses any man (young or old) from sin.

I personally know a minister whose wife was a "lady of the night" in her pre-Christ life. What about that? Obviously the age of the WWW has made this a much more complicated matter, but still...reputation has to start at conversion, IMO. Not before, or everyone but those raised in a pew would be doomed to never be in leadership. (And that would be a crying shame.)

I'm sure the public statement was an attempt to address all the *publicity* that's already out there; not to give other Christians carte blanche to weigh in on this couple's personal decisions.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Sigh. What does this scenario really have to do with anything? I agree with others that the relationship has potential issues and that it's moving very quickly and that it may very well be terribly mismatched (and it also could work out beautifully and become a great testament to God's power to revolutionize a life and use it to His glory). However, that does NOT mean her past should be used against her or that it excuses any man (young or old) from sin.

I personally know a minister whose wife was a "lady of the night" in her pre-Christ life. What about that? Obviously the age of the WWW has made this a much more complicated matter, but still...reputation has to start at conversion, IMO. Not before, or everyone but those raised in a pew would be doomed to never be in leadership. (And that would be a crying shame.)

I'm sure the public statement was an attempt to address all the *publicity* that's already out there; not to give other Christians carte blanche to weigh in on this couple's personal decisions.

If a boy is inclined to do that, so are the grown men and they would be inclined to do it irregardless of this woman's past then

"The average age, she said, at which children first view pornography is 11, and 93 percent of boys and 91 percent of girls have viewed porn before they are 18. This is important because viewing porn is highly addictive. It shuts down the prefrontal cortex of the brain and alters brain development in kids who watch it. After that, true intimacy with a partner becomes more difficult. With the technological advances of smartphones, one-third of teenagers now carry the equivalent of X-rated theaters in their pockets, Hughes added."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/in...lights-128199/

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by canam

It depends on the pastor in my experience ,some pastors wives have tpastorehere fingers in everything and the pastor discusses everything with her , and it gets yacked about at the supper table with the kids listening, which i think is very wrong imo, my current pastor ? just the opposite she has her activities in the church, but anything to do with advice goes to her husband and she is blissfully unaware of anything that is said, which i like very much !!

I have found that many times like it or not the pastors wife is drug into things (if not her husband then the church). pastors wives are going to hear things of course it is not a matter of if. I believe that pastors wife's way of handling things differs and may make you believe she is uninformed. There is not a married couple alive who don't set down and talk about their stresses and the pastors stresses are ussually in the church (I agree that the supper table and in front of the kids is not the place).
In counseling for my personal protection I would never counsel a woman or child without my wife present. That being said she is going to get inside information. The question is would you want a babe in the Lord that has only been part for a few months to be this involved in church leadership work. Maybe in a larger church their is a pastoral staff that is involved in counseling where their is less need for the pastors wife's involvement.

I am thankful for my wife and have seen her targeted for criticism for just being my wife. I don't think that the pastors wife is a church position, but I know pastors who have suffered divorce because of the stresses of church leadership. Some may say they must have not been called in the first place, but who knows. Pastors and their families endure much stress. Most people think pastors are lazy and if they gain any financially their is going to be someone going to say they are somehow mishandleing church finances.

Is this really the enviroment for a newly born again child of God.

[good samaritan]

Marriage is the second most important decision a person will make their whole life. I have searched scriptures and have found no place where permission is given to re-marry. If it doesn't work the first time I wouldn't have peace to do it again. I don't say this to condemn anyone, but only that this should be weighed in the ballances before making a marriage decision.