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Old 01-07-2015, 12:57 PM
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Re: Seal the Borders! American Flu is EPIDEMIC!

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I started this thread to show the contrast in response between Ebola and flu-- both of which can be deadly.

At least for Ebola, there appears to be some kind of cure, else everyone who contracted it would die.

For the flu, there is no cure.
Can't really compare Ebola and the flu. Each year, there are millions of people who become ill with the flu. Thousands die. The current Ebola outbreak has killed well over a thousand people, with the number infected far below those infected with the flu. As of yet, there is no cure for Ebola. The mortality is between 60-90%.

The overwhelming majority which become ill with the flu get better and live. The opposite happens with those who are infected with Ebola. You get Ebola, you die. Unless it's caught very early and you have connections to get you to Atlanta or Nebraska within a day or two.
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Old 01-07-2015, 01:53 PM
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Re: Seal the Borders! American Flu is EPIDEMIC!

But there are treatments available for Ebola as only one guy died from Ebola here in the States and his was not caught by the hospital in Houston when he first went there.

I think the comparison can be made because the flu is more contagious than Ebola and like you said, thousands die every year from the flu.

Thousands don't die every year from Ebola.

In other words, death is more common from the flu than it is from Ebola.
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:15 PM
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Re: Seal the Borders! American Flu is EPIDEMIC!

flu can only attack those with low immunity, which is why elderberry syrup and garlic work; they are immuno-boosters. High immunity = no flu. Ever.
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:21 PM
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But there are treatments available for Ebola as only one guy died from Ebola here in the States and his was not caught by the hospital in Houston when he first went there.

I think the comparison can be made because the flu is more contagious than Ebola and like you said, thousands die every year from the flu.

Thousands don't die every year from Ebola.

In other words, death is more common from the flu than it is from Ebola.
Yes, but how many in the US have caught Ebola. Zero. How many have come to the US with Ebola and of that, how many died.

Two missionaries, one African, two other healthcare workers. Of those 5, one died.

Still think it's comparable to catching the flu?

Thousands may not die each year from Ebola, but how many GET Ebola each year?

Look at the raw numbers. Ebola has a much higher death rate. It may not be a common, yearly occurrence like the flu, but when it hits, the overwhelming majority die.

Not so with the flu.
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:32 PM
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Elderberry Syrup
2/3 cup dried or fresh elderberries (dried can be bought at amazon.com or at local health food store)
3-1/2 cups water
2 tablespoons fresh or ground ginger
1 tsp cinnamon
1/2 tsp cloves, whole, or powdered
1 cup raw honey - best if bought from a local farmer

Mix ingredients, EXCEPT HONEY in a medium saucepan. Bring to a boil, reduce heat, and simmer for 45 minutes or so, until liquid has been reduced to half. Remove from heat, and let cool. Strain the mixture into a glass bowl or measuring cup. Add raw honey and stir well. Pour mixture into a 16-oz canning jar with lid. Label the syrup. Store in the refrigerator.

Standard dose is 1/2 tsp to 1 tsp for kids and 1/2 Tbsp to 1 Tbsp for adults. If the flu does strike, take the normal dose every 2-3 hours instead of once a day until symptoms disappear.
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Does it taste very bad?
I'm such a baby when it comes to
taking any liquid medicine!
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:51 PM
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Does it taste very bad?
I'm such a baby when it comes to
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No, it tastes pretty good actually. It is purple in color, and can easily be mixed with some hot water or a cup of hot tea if you might like that better It is actually quite sweet and fruity tasting with a hint of spice.
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:02 PM
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No, it tastes pretty good actually. It is purple in color, and can easily be mixed with some hot water or a cup of hot tea if you might like that better It is actually quite sweet and fruity tasting with a hint of spice.
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Could you imagine the shock to our travel industry if that was the outcry of other nations concerning our flu epidemic that has killed 15 children-- an outbreak for which there is no cure?

While two thousand people may or may not die from the flu in America this flu season, many more THOUSANDS will become infected and get ill from the flu this season.

What should be the world's response to our flu epidemic? After all, those governments have a responsibility to protect their citizens!

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/15-chil...ry?id=27895739
the bodies natural immune system takes care of the flu in most cases. The Flu exists everywhere, not just in America.

To say there is no cure is absurd. If that were true there would be a LOT more than 15 dead
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I started this thread to show the contrast in response between Ebola and flu-- both of which can be deadly.

At least for Ebola, there appears to be some kind of cure, else everyone who contracted it would die.

For the flu, there is no cure.
You are comparing apples and oranges.

BTW there IS a cure for the Flu, besides the bodies immune system, there is tamiflu
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But there are treatments available for Ebola as only one guy died from Ebola here in the States and his was not caught by the hospital in Houston when he first went there.

I think the comparison can be made because the flu is more contagious than Ebola and like you said, thousands die every year from the flu.

Thousands don't die every year from Ebola.

In other words, death is more common from the flu than it is from Ebola.
BTW..NO Death is NOT more common from the flu. Fly to Africa and see how many died from Ebola

Just answer this, would you rather contract Ebola or the Flu?

BTW nobody puts on a full HAZMAT style suit to take care of patients with the flu...figure it out
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