Can There any more Polls to Throw Doubt on Christ?

[Timmy]

I should moderate the "vile" part. It can be vile. For example, if someone would likely be endangered by covering or reconverting. Yeah. That would be vile.

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Originally Posted by Timmy

OK, yes. There are fewer bad things in my morality than before. AFF doesn't want anyone to disagree with their stance on homosexuality, so I shouldn't directly answer the question about that. But yeah. Fewer immoral things now

Why? Is there something wrong with change?

No, but there's something wrong when you claim your morality was not hit, and in actuality your morality declined. So, admit I was right! It declined. I know you prefer CHANGED like the abortionists prefer FETUS rather than human being. But the CHANGE was a DECLINE in morality.

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Originally Posted by Timmy

You know, I've said several times before that I think everyone should do what works for them. Few have given me the same blessing. You are the opposite extreme, requiring everyone to do what works for you! I find that attitude silly, immature, ridiculous, fruitless, and really pretty vile. (See? My morality didn't just lose things! )

I require no one to do anything, including what works for me. Where did you get that from? lol What you do doesn't affect me at all. I d not require it, but the God of the Bible does.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by mfblume

No, but there's something wrong when you claim your morality was not hit, and in actuality your morality declined. So, admit I was right! It declined. I know you prefer CHANGED like the abortionists prefer FETUS rather than human being. But the CHANGE was a DECLINE in morality.

Wait, wait, wait. Is it the more forbidden things, the better?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I require no one to do anything, including what works for me. Where did you get that from? lol What you do doesn't affect me at all. I d not require it, but the God of the Bible does.

You really didn't get my meaning? Really? It is tiresome conversing with you.

[Timmy]

And no. God does NOT require anyone to believe what you believe. Not me, not you, no one.

[Timmy]

If you think he does, it's on you to prove it.

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Wait, wait, wait. Is it the more forbidden things, the better?

Superb manner of deflection! Bravo! But is not your words an admission of letting up on some stricter morality? To use your words, was your list of morals involving more forbidden elements than they do now?

Whatever the case, your morality declined, though you PREFER to say "changed." I can understand why the preference of terms. Btu whichever way you slice it, your morality "took a hit" as you termed it. Did it not? Seriously. Did it not?

Originally Posted by Timmy

You really didn't get my meaning? Really? It is tiresome conversing with you.

ONly because your feet are being held to the fire and it is based upon your challenge of a claim I made that you now waffle about. Can't bear the truth, can you? You get called on an issue you initially challenged, and you suddenly are not so forthright any more.

Originally Posted by Timmy

And no. God does NOT require anyone to believe what you believe. Not me, not you, no one.

Sorry, I believe He does. Everyone believes what truth they believe in is what God requires if they got what they believe from the bible. But the difference is your distortion of what we are saying does not include the reality that we also believe it is not us who are judge but God.

But, anyway, keep on deflecting.

If you think he does, it's on you to prove it.

Deflect away! Doing great!

Timmy. Remember in the 50's that TV sitcoms would only show a bedroom scene if there were twin beds, pajamas and even caps on their heads!? But today in 2015, ...

That is what is called "decline in morality." But you still prefer to call it "change" in morality, huh? Okaaaay.

By the way, the majority on the poll said enough is enough. And you think I'm alone on this? Actually it's a shutout as of today.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Superb manner of deflection! Bravo! But is not your words an admission of letting up on some stricter morality? To use your words, was your list of morals involving more forbidden elements than they do now?

Yes, I have already said that. You just said I said it! What am I deflecting? My question to you, that you just quoted, goes unanswered. Who is deflecting?

Whatever the case, your morality declined, though you PREFER to say "changed." I can understand why the preference of terms. Btu whichever way you slice it, your morality "took a hit" as you termed it. Did it not? Seriously. Did it not?

The phrase "took a hit" has obvious connotations that I don't admit to, and you are clearly implying. But in the strictest meaning, as it has been reduced -- some items removed from the list of immoral things -- sure! It "took a hit"! Now, will you answer the question you quoted above?

ONly because your feet are being held to the fire and it is based upon your challenge of a claim I made that you now waffle about. Can't bear the truth, can you? You get called on an issue you initially challenged, and you suddenly are not so forthright any more.

Where in the world have I not been forthright?! Where am I waffling?!

SMH.

There is no fire, by the way. My feet are fine.

Sorry, I believe He does. Everyone believes what truth they believe in is what God requires if they got what they believe from the bible. But the difference is your distortion of what we are saying does not include the reality that we also believe it is not us who are judge but God.

But, anyway, keep on deflecting.



Deflect away! Doing great!

Asking for proof is deflecting? You're amazing.

Timmy. Remember in the 50's that TV sitcoms would only show a bedroom scene if there were twin beds, pajamas and even caps on their heads!? But today in 2015, ...

That is what is called "decline in morality." But you still prefer to call it "change" in morality, huh? Okaaaay.

By the way, the majority on the poll said enough is enough. And you think I'm alone on this? Actually it's a shutout as of today.

It used to be immoral for a white person to marry a black person.

Now, this example alone should prove my point, but somehow I'm sure you will say I'm deflecting, or something. Again, you are amazing.

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You deflected by not dealing with whether or not your morality DECLINED before the previous recent posts were submitted to you, and tried to get off by saying it "CHANGED" and quickly ran off to put accusation against me saying I demand everyone be like me, when that was actually a lie to boot. That is immoral. I do not demand everyone do as I do. You're proving my case.

You waffled in simply not saying, "Yeah I declined in morality." You used the term "changed, "and quickly left that hot potato alone and pointed your finger at me, lying while you were at it. Usually you seem to forthrightly admit things. But this waffling about CHANGE as opposed to DECLINE shows some checkered Belgian pastrywork.

And then you use the lame argument that it was considered immoral for a white person to marry a black person as well, as if to justify cussing or homosexuality, etc. The fact is the bible never spoke against whites marrying blacks, which was shown in the issue with Moses. So your false accusation of guilt by association fails. We're talking about biblical morality. Are there any moral issues in your life that have declined that you agree are genuine examples of a lack of morality, if you can be honest enough to admit so here? Again, cussing? I don't know if you do or not, but, for example, if you honestly believe cussing is immoral and you admit to doing it since you left your faith, unlike the false morality of interracial relationships being wrong, then that would lead to a different conversation than what has been.

Increase in morality is not always present just because it implies stricter standards. But everyone knows morality in the bible is great, and decline from THAT is genuine decline in morality.

But is it not strange that there is never an increase in stricter standards of morality in those who once lived by the bible and left it? It is always a decline. Why never an increase?