Does anyone use the Septuagint?

[Michael The Disciple]

We can forget proving Yeshua is the Father in Isaiah 9:6 in the LXX.

6 For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.

[Scott Pitta]

The change of wording in Is.9:6 is typical of the LXX. Very interesting.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

We can forget proving Yeshua is the Father in Isaiah 9:6 in the LXX.

6 For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.

I may have some bad news for you, since the study of the DDS, it has been found that during the time of the first century A.D. "everlasting father" was mistranslated by the Masoretes.

In the DDS it reads Elgibor the father of Ad, ruler of Hashalom.

Jeff A Benner isn't one of my favorite scholars,and I disagree with some things he has presented in the past. But you may want to look at his issues with the Masoretic text as well as the LXX.

http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/31_selections.html

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I may have some bad news for you, since the study of the DDS, it has been found that during the time of the first century A.D. "everlasting father" was mistranslated by the Masoretes.

The above post should read...during the time of the first century A.D. the term everlasting father may have not been used, and the Masoretes mistranslated it in 600 A.D.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I may have some bad news for you, since the study of the DDS, it has been found that during the time of the first century A.D. "everlasting father" was mistranslated by the Masoretes.

In the DDS it reads Elgibor the father of Ad, ruler of Hashalom.

Jeff A Benner isn't one of my favorite scholars,and I disagree with some things he has presented in the past. But you may want to look at his issues with the Masoretic text as well as the LXX.

http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/31_selections.html

I have this:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Dead-Sea-S.../dp/0060600640

And the translators translate Isaiah 9:6 the traditional way into English.

[Esaias]

If I am not mistaken, the Alexandrine text of the LXX includes "mighty God, everlasting Father". The Vaticanus text reads " Messenger/Angel of great counsel", which is the base text used by Brenton.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

If I am not mistaken, the Alexandrine text of the LXX includes "mighty God, everlasting Father". The Vaticanus text reads " Messenger/Angel of great counsel", which is the base text used by Brenton.

I know the later part of your statement, but please show me what you found with the Codex Alexandrinus. I have a facsimile somewhere, but was trying to find it after votivesoul posted the Martin G Abegg, Peter Flint, and Ulrich copy, I asked Sister Benincasa, but she doesn't know where I put it. I was just having this discussion this morning with a brother over the phone. Im pretty sure they both say Messenger of Great council. Please find me your information concerning the Codex Alexandrinus.

[Scott Pitta]

I'll look for it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

found it

[Evang.Benincasa]

It says "Messenger of great counsel" and it says "father of the age to come."