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08-05-2015, 07:00 PM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
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QUOTE=Scott Pitta;1386074]There is no discussion of facial hair in the New Testament.[/QUOTE]
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08-05-2015, 07:27 PM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
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Please no war but I have asked before and never really received a scripture answer: What scriptures do you use for mustaches or facial hair? If someone will tell me, I promise I will only acknowledge your answer and will NOT debate your answer. I have seen some hot debate on here before on other issues but I just read and not respond. Personally, I would not like a mustache or beard on my husband. Thank you. If someone wants to private message me with the scriptures, I will edit this message (if I can) and take it off. PLEASE AGAIN NO WAR JUST SCRIPTURES.
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You are asking the wrong question. It doesn't matter what the Holy Bible says about it but what the UPC and WWPF say! 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-05-2015, 07:30 PM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
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You are asking the wrong question. It doesn't matter what the Holy Bible says about it but what the UPC and WWPF say! |
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08-05-2015, 07:31 PM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
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Thank you.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-05-2015, 07:46 PM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
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Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS
Please no war but I have asked before and never really received a scripture answer: What scriptures do you use for mustaches or facial hair? If someone will tell me, I promise I will only acknowledge your answer and will NOT debate your answer. I have seen some hot debate on here before on other issues but I just read and not respond. Personally, I would not like a mustache or beard on my husband. Thank you. If someone wants to private message me with the scriptures, I will edit this message (if I can) and take it off. PLEASE AGAIN NO WAR JUST SCRIPTURES.
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The Bible references facial hair at different places in the scripture. By these references, we can infer that the Messiah had facial hair (beard), since they plucked it off his face. We also know that Aaron the High Priest had facial hair, since the scripture refers to the holy oil that runs down his beard. There are no scriptures, laws, or commandments that are against a holy man having facial hair. Our position against it is mostly based in cultural tradition passed down through since and holy people, who saw it as a sign of worldliness in their generation. I respect the tradition and never intend to have a beard or mustache, however I don't view it as a sin issue. Our church and pastor doesn't preach or teach against it, but generally speaking most align with the tradition that has been passed down to us. Our church is UPC.
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08-05-2015, 07:52 PM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
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The Bible references facial hair at different places in the scripture. By these references, we can infer that the Messiah had facial hair (beard), since they plucked it off his face. We also know that Aaron the High Priest had facial hair, since the scripture refers to the holy oil that runs down his beard. There are no scriptures, laws, or commandments that are against a holy man having facial hair. Our position against it is mostly based in cultural tradition passed down through since and holy people, who saw it as a sign of worldliness in their generation. I respect the tradition and never intend to have a beard or mustache, however I don't view it as a sin issue. Our church and pastor doesn't preach or teach against it, but generally speaking most align with the tradition that has been passed down to us. Our church is UPC.
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08-05-2015, 08:30 PM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
Amazing that this issue is still around.
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08-05-2015, 08:34 PM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
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I have issues with the PAW due to it allowing Noel Jones to not only remain affiliated with the organization, but to be on its Board of Bishops. A few years ago, Noel had an affair with a married woman which resulted in her getting pregnant and having a child.
The PAW also has a woman Bishop.
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Don't disfellowship Noel Jones! He can sing!
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Philippians 2:12 - ...Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
1 Corinthians 1:10 - Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith ...
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08-05-2015, 08:38 PM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
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Don't disfellowship Noel Jones! He can sing!
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So can Madonna and Miley Cyrus 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-06-2015, 07:45 AM
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Re: Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
The New Testament does not mention if Christ had facial hair or not. Nor does it say his beard was plucked.
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