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06-02-2007, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
I think that the press gives these illegals a free pass. They are not immigrants. They are illegal immigrants. It is not racist to say so.
It is an embarrassment to the U.S. of A. to allow illegals to overflow our borders, tax our education sytem, send their earnings back to their home country - tax free, and then whine and moan and complain about how mean America is. The demonstrations in Chicago last year should have been halted completely. To me that was a foreign power threatening our interests.
I am for the border fence, for deportation, for proper documentation, and for LEGAL immigration. I have no problem with any ethnicity. I have a problem with those who literally steal our countries resources, whine about border enforcement and then wave their flags in our faces.
There was a time when immigrants cherished their heritage, yet melted into the fabric of the country. New Age tolerance no longer allows this. We are told to coddle them now.
President Bush is a joke for wanting to grant them amnesty. He is selling us out. This is a huge drain on vital infrastructure that TAXPAYERS provide.
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Thats right I want Grandma to get my money not an illegal alien.I think
the elderly get such a pitiful amount to live on its unreal.The way the economy is dog food is too expensive for Grandma.Grandma is having to pick cans.Shame oh for shame.
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06-02-2007, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown
The only problem I see with this is that it would cost billions to catch and deport every illegal immigrant. Also, many jobs that we USA folks are too proud to do are done by illegals. I think the wiser choice is to allow for them to register for a green card, SSN, and license locally, and make them work towards permanent citizenship.. Most immigrants WANT citizenship. They would register. And when that happened, they would then become part of the solution to our ever growing deficit. It would put them into a database, and they could be monitored much easier until they reach their citizenship. It could also be adopted that if they have any problems with the law during their temporary status, and would be deported for good.
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WHo says Americans are too proud to do these jobs? Used to be most construction workers around my area were Americans...Mexican and European and any other...now they are mostly illegals. It's NOT that Americans suddely stopped wanting to do those jobs...it's that NOBODY was enforcing the laws to begin with and these employers realized they could hire illegals and get away with it for less money....
And NO Dan I did not get that from a radio show
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06-02-2007, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Not according to DA and others...they have tax payer IDs or fake SS cards and are faithfully paying taxes...so why do we need to give them a fast tract to legality?
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More INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY ... I said many ... especially those that want to become legal
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06-02-2007, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd
400 BILLION dollars in social services to Illegal aliens? PP is that really accurate?
do you realize what that number would be if they were legal?
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If they were legal they would all draw SS when they retire...can bring their family members into the US and they can also draw SS or welfare if they needed (if they lost a job or were disabled or retired)...people think the increase tax revenue is going to fix things, but according to DA they are already paying taxes!
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06-02-2007, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
More INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY ... I said many ... especially those that want to become legal
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Would you say Most? Half?
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06-02-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Why do we need a solution? They are here, their kids become citizens...let's just do a better job of keeping out other illegals from all countries. Let's fix our borders and pressure Mexico to clean up it's act
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Why even opine then Prax ????.....this premise of this thread revolves around an amnesty and PP's desire to deport all illegals .....
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06-02-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
Many illegals are paid under the table and don't pay taxes. Come on...if the employer can get away with paying them peanuts, why would have put it on paper so he can get in trouble for paying people less than minimum?
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LOL
HO says many don't pay taxes
DA says Many DO pay taxes......
Does anyone have facts or is this just all emotional hot air? 
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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06-02-2007, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Would you say Most? Half?
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Would you like to tell me how many illegals there are ... it's all speculation ... the one's I know ... have been ... to show their good faith ....
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06-02-2007, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Why even opine then Prax ????.....this premise of this thread revolves around an amnesty and PP's desire for deporting all illegals .....
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And I addressed the amnesty issue or the issue of making them legal. I didn't see that his initial thread was about deporting them, but I don't favor deporting them.
However we do need to do something about businesses hiring illegals because the more they see they can do it the less they are going to hire citizens
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-02-2007, 11:27 PM
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ahem......bipartisan?
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