Leaders killing for religion.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sir Thomas More was executed mainly because he refused the king as the head of the church.

Yes, More stayed loyal to the Pope and the Catholic church until the very end. But it was because the Pope refused Henry VIII's petition to annul his marriage to Catherine of Aragon that the whole debacle erupted. Had Pope Clement VII agreed, there might not be a Church of England such as we have it today.

Certainly, Henry VIII would not have ceded from Rome and declared himself head over the believers in England.

[Ferd]

Lets not pretend that More was some innocent. He was very much involved in the burning of heritics.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Lets not pretend that More was some innocent. He was very much involved in the burning of heritics.

No pretense intended. Just another name added to the list to answer D4L's question.

[Ferd]

There were no men of power during the reformation period who were involved in the reformation that are without blood on their hands.

period.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Yes, More stayed loyal to the Pope and the Catholic church until the very end. But it was because the Pope refused Henry VIII's petition to annul his marriage to Catherine of Aragon that the whole debacle erupted. Had Pope Clement VII agreed, there might not be a Church of England such as we have it today.

Certainly, Henry VIII would not have ceded from Rome and declared himself head over the believers in England.

Yes, I agree, but I believe the whole dethroning the Pope, monarchy driven protestant movement were heavily political, and power plays. TM was a Catholic apologist and as you rightly posted loyal not only to the Pope, but to the Roman church, and divine right of kings. This complicated things for TM. Thomas More's enemies took advantage of TM failure to show up at Anne Boleyn's coronation and that is where TM's troubles increased.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

I am not a historian. You would probably do very well as one.

Nor am I am interested in attaining any such title. All I did was ask a question
and then stated that, all things considered, nothing would have changed the
desire of the king to divorce one woman in order to marry another...nor how
many times he may have divorced and remarried. It really has no bearing on
preaching and teaching the truth of the gospel.

I am certain that the history of the scriptures endows a person with faith; for
there is Spirit and Life in the scriptures. But the history of man, not so much.

"Faith comes by hearing...the WORD..."

I'm sorry, I thought you and I were discussing history concerning TM, not faith, or the Bible.

Please forgive my misunderstanding.