Love One Another and the Cross

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You fail to realize I am getting this from the Bible not from tradition or churches. I dumped everything I was taught when I was called, and studied the bible to determine what the Word of God said. I realized many things I was told before were correct, even strengthened, but some things were never covered at all. And then I saw things that I was taught were incorrect.

So, I continued to study each new testament book verse by verse. And the cross came to the forefront so much it changed my view of prophecy. It changed my focus of emphasis. The Bible is the cross and Christ's love for us that cannot be topped through that cross. The blood the blood the blood is everything. And the teaching of the Word informing us that Christ died for the ungodly, and associated greatest love with that, is where the focus of ANY love should be centred. THAT is the love to be looking at.



This is why I teach our people that they are not to trust what I say because I said it. You seem to think everyone who teaches Acts 2:38 does not truly teach people how to be led by the Spirit. It's unjust of you to do this everytime you talk to what you call an OP. YOu came across a segment of OPism that is offtrack, I agree. but you tarred everyone who is oneness with the same unjust brush unjustly. You did this so much so that you won't consider that someone may have insight you never experienced.



I hate ceremony and service, and have told you I don't know how many times it's the HEART. But you take that and twist it with words in my mouth and continue to say I am steeped in ceremony.



When you care to open your mind from its offended closed state, and actually discuss to see if you could possibly learn something, let me know. So far, all I see is the results of having been disillusioned and you closed your mind to any adherent of Acts 2:38, which you actually admit is in the bible and has a true place. But you're too closed due to offence. And at your age that's the last thing you need.

i think after we address your response to my statement we might be in a better position to talk about what offends me, or what my mind is closed to. Yes, i am naturally more closed to someone claiming to be an adherent of Acts 2:38 now; it comes with the territory of judging by the fruit.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i think after we address your response to my statement we might be in a better position to talk about what offends me, or what my mind is closed to. Yes, i am naturally more closed to someone claiming to be an adherent of Acts 2:38 now; it comes with the territory of judging by the fruit.

...to the point you won't even really discuss.

I do not care what you think of me and if I am lost or not. It's about truth, not me, since you indicated what statement you referred to.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Nothing anyone says can be believed since you erected a perceptual grid from offense that filters all you see.

gimme a break, Mike. What is your honest emotional response to the statement lol. How do you imagine anyone else who seeks God might feel differently. It isn't a puzzle.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

gimme a break, Mike. What is your honest emotional response to the statement lol. How do you imagine anyone else who seeks God might feel differently. It isn't a puzzle.

You're making it a game. I just added to my former post, it does not affect me to read your statement. I don't care, shazeep. Seriously. There's no emotion over it.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Clothing is not a part of my preaching. Unless I say modesty. You would know that if you happened to see photos video or walked into our services. See how you tar everyone without knowing?

You won't even attempt a chat. You must have really got burnt.

um, what? I allow that if your model leads you to the right clothes, then do it--how am i tarring anyone?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You're making it a game. I just added to my former post, it does not affect me to read your statement. I don't care, shazeep. Seriously. There's no emotion over it.

No, this is not a game. It goes to the heart of the matter. If you say you don't care, then why should anyone care to hear you say this to them?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

um, what? I allow that if your model leads you to the right clothes, then do it--how am i tarring anyone?

The right clothes? I don't preach what you call standards. That's what I mean by tarring with the same brush. You think it's all about clothing standards. What do you mean "same clothes"?

How can you spend so much time avoiding a good discussion?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

No, this is not a game. It goes to the heart of the matter. If you say you don't care, then why should anyone care to hear you say this to them?

Because my concern is on truth. That's what I care about. And Gods' word is truth. You're not talking. How many weeks has it been now? You want my opinion and you put words in my mouth of what my opinion is, and all the while I am trying to talk WORD. But you won';t. You obviously don't want to. It's called trolling.

[shazeep]

and since that is put disingenuously, feel free to rephrase it, since it generally is put in the form of an invitation. I'm not interested in winning some empty argument on semantics.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

The right clothes? I don't preach what you call standards. That's what I mean by tarring with the same brush. You think it's all about clothing standards. What do you mean "same clothes"?

How can you spend so much time avoiding a good discussion?

i mean the clothes necessary to attend the wedding feast, discussed earlier.