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Old 02-17-2016, 11:09 AM
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Re: Planned Parenthood Cleared Of Wrong Doing

Most are totally ignorant of the Pregnant Women's Support Act. The goal was to reduce the abortion rate by 95% in ten years. It contained legislation for the following:
4/22/2009--Introduced.

Pregnant Women Support Act - Authorizes the Secretary of Health and Human Services to make grants to increase public awareness of resources available to pregnant women to carry their pregnancy to term and new parents.

Amends the Public Health Service Act to allow the Secretary to make grants for the purchase of ultrasound equipment for examinations of pregnant women.

Prohibits a health insurance issuer offering individual coverage from imposing a preexisting condition exclusion or a waiting period or otherwise discriminating against a woman on the basis that she is pregnant.

Provides for continuation coverage for newborns.

Amends title XXI (State Children's Health Insurance Program) (CHIP, formerly known as SCHIP) of the Social Security Act to allow states to extend health care coverage to an unborn child.

Requires health facilities that perform abortions to obtain informed consent from a pregnant woman seeking an abortion.

Directs the Secretary to provide for: (1) higher education pregnant and parenting student services offices; and (2) programs to work with pregnant or parenting teens to complete high school.

Authorizes grants for services to pregnant women who are victims of domestic violence, dating violence, or stalking. Requires states to require a pregnancy determination for homicide victims.

Requires the Secretary to provide for supportive services for pregnant women, mothers, and children.

Amends the Internal Revenue Code to increase and make refundable the tax credit for adoption expenses.

Authorizes appropriations to carry out the special supplemental nutrition program for women, infants, and children (WIC program).

Amends the Food Stamp Act of 1977 to increase the eligibility threshold for food stamps.

Authorizes appropriations to carry out the Child Care and Development Block Grant Act of 1990.

Authorizes grants to provide to eligible mothers education on the health needs of their infants through visits to their homes by registered nurses.

Authorizes grants for collecting and reporting abortion surveillance data.
The act was defeated by... PRO-LIFE REPUBLICANS. Why? Because it was drafted by DEMOCRATS.

You see... the Republicans want to make sure that the "butchering" continues so that they can manipulate people into voting for them every election on the single claim that they are "Pro-Life". Babies being "butchered" is good for Republicans... the more babies are being butchered... the more people will vote Republican, even if the Republican policies are against their own interests.

You see, what Anti-Abortion extremists tell you is that Democrats are "Pro-Choice". What they don't tell you is... Democrats are constantly fighting to address the concerns and issues that women face when confronted with a crisis pregnancy and therewith reduce the abortion rate. It's a shell game. And since the Democrats are idealistic bleeding heart weenies... they come out looking like dolts every time. lol

Evidently... you can be Pro-Life and do nothing significant to reduce the abortion rate and people praise you... or you can be Pro-Choice and pull out the stops to reduce the abortion rate and people curse you. My friend, things are not what they seem. Even Pro-Choice Democrats want to reduce the abortion rate.

And all of you know that I'm right. But few have the guts to tell it like it is.

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Old 02-17-2016, 11:40 AM
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Don't show up at the ball if you can't dance.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:42 AM
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Aquila - you are not telling the truth about the above.
Point 1 - The Dems "owned" the Congress in 2009 and could have passed anything they wanted, such as Obamacare, but THEY didn't pass this.
Point 2 - No vote was ever taken on this act, so you cannot say who was for it and who was against it.
Point 3 - Republicans were also involved in introducing the bill

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregna...en_Support_Act
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/s270

Now, can you explain yourself?
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:47 AM
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Aquila - you are not telling the truth about the above.
Point 1 - The Dems "owned" the Congress in 2009 and could have passed anything they wanted, such as Obamacare, but THEY didn't pass this.
Point 2 - No vote was ever taken on this act, so you cannot say who was for it and who was against it.
Point 3 - Republicans were also involved in introducing the bill

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregna...en_Support_Act
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/s270

Now, can you explain yourself?
The bill died in Congress. It had 43 cosponsors (29 Democrats, 14 Republicans). It wouldn't have died if every supposedly "Pro-Life" Republican would have backed it. In the end, it died with more Democrats supporting it than Pro-Life Republicans.

Why weren't your boys willing to show up to play ball??? After all... don't they care about the lives of unborn babies?

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Old 02-17-2016, 11:50 AM
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Aquila - you still misrepresented the facts.
In all of our discussions I cannot recall you doing that before.
Why?
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:53 AM
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Aquila - you still misrepresented the facts.
In all of our discussions I cannot recall you doing that before.
Why?
Are you saying that the Republicans gave the bill their full support??? Had it not been for the Republicans... this bill would have based the House and gone to the Senate. Please note, it was 29 Democrats cosponsoring this bill with only 14 Republicans. Why not more Republicans??? They are Prolife right?
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:57 AM
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In April of 2009 there were 57 Dems, 2 Ind's (who caucused with Dem's) and 40 Rep Senators.
There were 256 Dems and 178 Rep Representatives.

So, even all of the pro-life rep's could not have made this pass.

Additionally, the DEMOCRATS did not even put it up for a vote. And they controlled that process.

You are wrong. Reboot and start over.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:00 PM
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Aquila - I have worked on Congressional legislation before. I know how the system works. This bill died in committee. No one but the committee members can advance it out.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:03 PM
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Now you are reduced to asking why all Republicans didn't sponsor it!

Severely disappointed in this "conversation"
Seriously.
I have respected you and your viewpoints, but you are out of control on this one.
And I do not understand why.
Now, I have to get to work.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:12 PM
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Socialists run amok. The abortion biz is NOT about "ensuring mothers don't die on the operating table." Anyone who thinks that probably shouldn't be allowed to operate a motor vehicle on the public roads.

Oh, what's the use. All of us who haven't had at least 4 kids will be out bred into extinction in a couple generations anyway.

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