Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria

[Birddog]

Originally Posted by consapente89

years ago there was a church where I live that "went charismatic". Used to be a very powerful Apostolic church. In that space of time when the Church flourished as an Apostolic church there were no known cases of adultery. The pastorate changed and subtle changes were made over time that seemed to raise no red flags. The only red flags were a couple cases of adultery in the laity. Again, the pastorate changed and the outward changes continued until there was no resemblance that it ever was an Apostolic church. Adultery became rampant. It was in the leadership, it was in the laity, it was between leadership and laity. Many marriages were broken up because of adultery. Once a seed is planted, it will continue to grow until it is plucked up by the roots. Perverted doctrine is enough to condemn someone's soul, but is usually not the only area that perversion has taken hold in. It is usually evidence of an issue that has long been flourishing.

But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men

God will pull the covers off of it eventually.

That is what has happened at Fort Worth with the beforementioned church.

It has adultery running rampant.

The young people have fornication running through the youth group.

Did not happen when the Elder P was there.

Somewhere the door was opened .

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Birddog

That is what has happened at Fort Worth with the beforementioned church.

It has adultery running rampant.

The young people have fornication running through the youth group.

Did not happen when the Elder P was there.

Somewhere the door was opened .

I call bull. I was raised UPC and fornication happened in conservative churches probably more so than liberal ones because that is all the young people had to do since they couldn't go skating, bowling, to ball games, etc.

If a church being conservative makes it have less sexual sin then explain Jordan Young and the Faith Tabernacle Apostolic Church in Kansas. One of the most conservative (and controlling) churches ever.

[returnman]

Originally Posted by CC1

Hmmmm......would it wash and dry the dishes faster? If so I think my son's old Ford pickup junker in my driveway has a 350 in it's rusting hulk and it runs!

For the record CC that would most likely be a 351 unless somebody put the chevy motor in the truck.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by CC1

Hmmmm......would it wash and dry the dishes faster? If so I think my son's old Ford pickup junker in my driveway has a 350 in it's rusting hulk and it runs!

Tim Tylor could be proud... IF you get on that ball and roll with it!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by CC1

I call bull. I was raised UPC and fornication happened in conservative churches probably more so than liberal ones because that is all the young people had to do since they couldn't go skating, bowling, to ball games, etc.

Bro, you need to free yourself of this burden.

Man, go buy a three wheel Goldwing or Harley and get back to riding. Do something! Jimmy Swaggart, liberal or ultra conservative? Jim Bakker, liberal or conservative? Earl Paulk, liberal or conservative? Ted Haggard, liberal or conservative? Eddie Long, liberal or conservative? Roman Catholic priests raping children? Liberal or conservative?

Bro, you think because a guy teaches his church family to abstain from playing jacks it causes him to molest children, commit adultery, or look at porn?

CC1, are you Lois?

Originally Posted by CC1

If a church being conservative makes it have less sexual sin then explain Jordan Young and the Faith Tabernacle Apostolic Church in Kansas. One of the most conservative (and controlling) churches ever.

CC1, I think you are so use to slamming "Old Time Pentecost" and Conservative Pentecost you are missing something called Snakes in Suits, I suggest you buy the book and read the book. PLEASE. Pretty please with liberal on top? Also read the Allure of Toxic Leaders, and Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me.

Bro, it is like you have some sort of Pentecostal PTSD, and find it's your mission (like Lois) to broad brush a whole group. Dude, not everyone forces people to do what they do. Even the guys who are heavy handed love their wives, love their children, love their church family. Never even think of anything nasty.

I must say this, forums have taught me one special lesson. Ring a bell, and the dog will salivate.

Thank you Brother Jim Yohe for the invite years ago.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by returnman

For the record CC that would most likely be a 351 unless somebody put the chevy motor in the truck.

Chevy?

In a Ford?

God help me.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by returnman

For the record CC that would most likely be a 351 unless somebody put the chevy motor in the truck.

It may be a 302 (5.0L). Ford 1/2 ton trucks from the late 80's to 90's had more 5.0's I believe. Chevy v8's are 350 and 305 those years. We want to automotively correct. lol.

[good samaritan]

I think if there has been error it has not been on teaching holiness and conservatism. I understand just because people abide the rules doesn't make them holy. I think sometimes we may have failed to emphasize the inward holiness as much as we should though.

Galations 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance:against such there is no law.

[canam]

Originally Posted by Birddog

That is what has happened at Fort Worth with the beforementioned church.

It has adultery running rampant.

The young people have fornication running through the youth group.

Did not happen when the Elder P was there.

Somewhere the door was opened .

wow

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bro, you need to free yourself of this burden.

Man, go buy a three wheel Goldwing or Harley and get back to riding. Do something! Jimmy Swaggart, liberal or ultra conservative? Jim Bakker, liberal or conservative? Earl Paulk, liberal or conservative? Ted Haggard, liberal or conservative? Eddie Long, liberal or conservative? Roman Catholic priests raping children? Liberal or conservative?

Bro, you think because a guy teaches his church family to abstain from playing jacks it causes him to molest children, commit adultery, or look at porn?

CC1, are you Lois?




CC1, I think you are so use to slamming "Old Time Pentecost" and Conservative Pentecost you are missing something called Snakes in Suits, I suggest you buy the book and read the book. PLEASE. Pretty please with liberal on top? Also read the Allure of Toxic Leaders, and Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me.

Bro, it is like you have some sort of Pentecostal PTSD, and find it's your mission (like Lois) to broad brush a whole group. Dude, not everyone forces people to do what they do. Even the guys who are heavy handed love their wives, love their children, love their church family. Never even think of anything nasty.

I must say this, forums have taught me one special lesson. Ring a bell, and the dog will salivate.

Thank you Brother Jim Yohe for the invite years ago.

Yes, to all of the above!!!