Elephant in the room - accusation of judging

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

How does it explain that? I can quote scripture, too, and throw it in the middle of a discussion, without explanation, such as:

2 Chronicles 12:4 KJV And he took the fenced cities which pertained to Judah, and came to Jerusalem.


And claim it proves my point.

Oh right. Get into explanation of context and application, and people tend to bolt.

I often wonder if shazeep only has one eye in the middle of his forehead.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

29Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

8Your message is to be sound beyond reproach, so that the opponent will be ashamed, having nothing bad to say about us.

Do not be arrogant, but be afraid.

22Therefore, consider God's kindness and severity: severity toward those who have fallen but God's kindness toward you--if you remain in His kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off.

32For God has imprisoned all in disobedience, so that He may have mercy on all.

And...? No explanation of context and application.

Why is this so prevalent on forums. It's like we say Israel progressed into the new covenant and God sees the church as Israel with the addition of Gentile believers who joined them. And someone responds, quoting:

Romans 11:26 KJV And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:


..and then says, "Believe the prophets!"

No context, explanation or application discussed whatsoever.

Ok... so...

Matthew 27:5 KJV And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

And then...

Luke 10:37 KJV And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

I've got a noose for you. Knock yourself out!

[mfblume]

Shazeep, cut the nonsense. Stop the games. Leave this vagueness alone.

Cut to the chase.

The cross. Salvation cannot occur without it. How can you say people who profess salvation by works cannot be lost?

Simple question. Deal with it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Shazeep, cut the nonsense. Stop the games. Leave this vagueness alone.

Cut to the chase.

The cross. Salvation cannot occur without it. How can you say people who profess salvation by works cannot be lost?

Simple question. Deal with it.

Muslims don't believe in the cross, and Catholics don't believe in the cross.
It doesn't get simpler than that.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You do not even read what I write, do you? lol

Ironic, since you certainly read one sentence months ago, but ignored context.

is there any possible chance you could give a straight answer to "are all Catholics lost, or not?"

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

is there any possible chance you could give a straight answer to "are all Catholics lost, or not?"

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[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

is there any possible chance you could give a straight answer to "are all Catholics lost, or not?"

How many times have I asked, "How many times...." How many times must I say the question should not be that at all. Its' not about people. Hello, this time? I already answered that question a long time ago. It's why you made this thread. lol.

Now, are you willing to discuss the point and the core reason for this offshoot? The cross?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

And...? Again never discussion on the context and its application.

1Therefore, any one of you, who judges is without excuse.

Do you really believe that you have some deeper meaning to discover here, like your train wreck of an interpretation @ "love your neighbor fulfills the law," or the ten other hairballs you have made of Scripture? It is plain English, Mike, although you would no doubt prefer the obfuscation available with the KJV, so that you could play priest some more.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I've got a noose for you. Knock yourself out!

so now you're going to go all EB on us, since you can't make any sense of Scripture without someone verifying your confused interpretation? You really are convinced that us mere mortals cannot grasp the meaning of these simple Scriptural statements, huh?

Do not be arrogant, but be afraid.

which part of this verse is giving you a problem, Mike?

32For God has imprisoned all in disobedience, so that He may have mercy on all.

please glorify us with your heavenly explanation of this verse, since it apparently is in some code that only you can understand.

29Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

8Your message is to be sound beyond reproach, so that the opponent will be ashamed, having nothing bad to say about us.

bam explain to me how any context is being violated when i post these, and suggest that they describe you, being as how i am so clueless.

goodbye Mike

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I often wonder if shazeep only has one eye in the middle of his forehead.

and some misguided bunch actually deemed you fit to be a pastor? A curse upon them, whoever they are, and may their p.o. box burn down