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Old 06-10-2017, 11:25 PM
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Re: How old do you think the universe is?

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The rabbi has expressed standard Orthodox belief - which was the standard belief of all Christians as well until about the 1800s, that God created ex nihilo the basic "stuff" out of which all the existing things were formed throughout the Creation Week.

I think I done forgot what the dispute was about concerning bara and asah?

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The rabbi has expressed standard Orthodox belief - which was the standard belief of all Christians as well until about the 1800s, that God created ex nihilo the basic "stuff" out of which all the existing things were formed throughout the Creation Week.

I think I done forgot what the dispute was about concerning bara and asah?

lol
Notice the term ASA is not to make from nothing, and BARA is. And the rabbi showed an interesting concept which does agree with YOUR view, but still shows the sun and moon and stars were not created the fourth day but FORMED, when the FIRST day saw them created. I disagree, but the interesting note is the matter was created the first day not any day following.

If it's standard, why did no one mention it yet?
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If it's standard, why did no one mention it yet?
I thought I did when I quoted from "mytorahlearning.com"?
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