Rome is Babylon

[houston]

Excellent posts, brother Benincasa.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Acts 9:22-23

But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ. And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to KILL HIM:

Acts 20:3

where he stayed three months. And when the Jews formed a PLOT AGAINST him as he was about to sail for Syria, he decided to go back through Macedonia.

Acts 23:12

When daylight came, the Jews formed a conspiracy and bound themselves with an oath not to eat or drink until they had KILLED Paul.

We just can't skip over the Bible evidence to formulate something so impossible to prove.

[Amanah]

Thank you all for posting, it's very thought provoking.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Thank you all for posting, it's very thought provoking.

I believed all of that and was POST TRIB. Lol. Then... whoops... went impartial preterist.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by houston

I believed all of that and was POST TRIB. Lol. Then... whoops... went impartial preterist.

you previously had posted that you thought partial preterism had hermeneutics that led to heresy, you no longer think so?

[Amanah]

I think this is an interesting Site, it leaves room for variance in the partial preterist school of thought.

HISTORICAL PRETERISM (HP) - A) Umbrella term covering all those who believe that only a slight amount of Bible prophecy was totally fulfilled in the early centuries of the Christian era. Determined by looking at where authors find a "transition" from the past to the future using the Olivet Discourse of Matthew 24/25 and the Apocalypse of John. B) This class has roots dating back to the first century, such as in the writings of Barnabus and Clement of Rome, and finds greater development in the writings of Justin Martyr and Eusebius. The Catholic and Orthodox churches maintained HP through the Middle Ages. Today's contemporary forms were largely developed in the writings of Calvin, Luther, Grotius and Lightfoot. C) Teaches that some of the Bible's "end times" prophecies were fulfilled by AD70, but that the substantial portion of prophetic fulfillment is yet to be revealed at the "last day." Transitions in the Middle of Matthew 24, or in the Middle of the Apocalypse of John.

https://www.preteristarchive.com/Par...ism/index.html

[houston]

Originally Posted by Amanah

you previously had posted that you thought partial preterism had hermeneutics that led to heresy, you no longer think so?

I do use the term heresy very lightly in that context. I do not believe that our preterist brethren deny the resurrection as they are accused of doing.

I do believe that the hermeneutic will lead one into full preterism, which is a position that I can not wrap my mind around. So I jokingly refer to myself as an impartial preterist... impartial in the sense of one who is disinterested, detached... because I stopped studying eschatology.

If you look closely what I'm saying is "I'm-partial preterist."

Anyway...

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I think this is an interesting Site, it leaves room for variance in the partial preterist school of thought.

HISTORICAL PRETERISM (HP) - A) Umbrella term covering all those who believe that only a slight amount of Bible prophecy was totally fulfilled in the early centuries of the Christian era. Determined by looking at where authors find a "transition" from the past to the future using the Olivet Discourse of Matthew 24/25 and the Apocalypse of John. B) This class has roots dating back to the first century, such as in the writings of Barnabus and Clement of Rome, and finds greater development in the writings of Justin Martyr and Eusebius. The Catholic and Orthodox churches maintained HP through the Middle Ages. Today's contemporary forms were largely developed in the writings of Calvin, Luther, Grotius and Lightfoot. C) Teaches that some of the Bible's "end times" prophecies were fulfilled by AD70, but that the substantial portion of prophetic fulfillment is yet to be revealed at the "last day." Transitions in the Middle of Matthew 24, or in the Middle of the Apocalypse of John.

https://www.preteristarchive.com/Par...ism/index.html

Transitions in the Middle of Matthew 24? If we subtract what Jesus was actually trying to convey to his four apostles, then all kinds of notions may crop up. Especially dissecting Matthew 24, which Partial Preterists never do.
Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 are the same discourse. Jesus and His apostles didn't fail at their task. Doomsdayers are focus on what they believe justice to be. Which is physical destruction of man and his world. But there is a judgement which we all must face, as man dies he will give an account. While everyone awaits asteroids to nuclear armageddon, many have already walked into eternity to meet their LORD and MASTER.

Some obeyed, some swayed, and some played.

But when we stand before HIS door there will be debate NO MORE.

[houston]

Partial preterists never do what? I may be wrong *groans*, but one can believe that Matt 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 are fulfilled and still hold to partial preterism.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by houston

Partial preterists never do what? I may be wrong *groans*, but one can believe that Matt 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 are fulfilled and still hold to partial preterism.

Why certainly.