Apocalyptic Thoughts - Page 5

Sean · #41 09-21-2017, 07:19 AM

He even thinks the 1st century church found redemption according to the verse.

But, life went on as usual after 70ad....

Sean · #42 09-21-2017, 07:23 AM

.And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Sorry, this did not happen to the first century church, nor any century church yet.

Sean · #43 09-21-2017, 07:24 AM

So, everything my opponent said, including the personal insults are just a smokescreen to hide his error.

Evang.Benincasa · #44 09-21-2017, 08:25 AM

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So, everything my opponent said, including the personal insults are just a smokescreen to hide his error.

Sean, since day one you have personally insulted all of us. Sean, you have zero credibility with us. Go find a pastor who has enough guts to deal with your baloney, and ALLOW him to work with you. You have been kicked out of threads, told not to post stupidity, and you just take it like a Jehove Witness, who believes every once of their spankings is because THEY have the truth. Therefore they are suffering for the faith. Your sufferings buddy boy, come from you being an obnoxious unskilled, child.

Nothing less nothing more.

Go seek ye a pastor.

Preferably one who is skilled in CLASSICAL DISPENSATIONALISM.

Larkin charts, Dwight Pentecost, the whole nine yards.

Go and learn SOMETHING!!!

Then come back with at least a knowledge of that which you claim you believe in.

Sean · #45 09-21-2017, 11:05 AM

Sean, you are a ... Cuss cuss cuss cuss cuss,... LOL

Aquila · #46 09-21-2017, 02:55 PM

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With all that, some think it is irrelevant for the saints today.

As it is written,

2 Peter 3:3-6 English Standard Version (ESV)
3 knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 4 They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, 6 and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished.

Just as those in Noah's day scoffed at the gathering storm clouds, so to will a generation of people scoff at the signs of Christ's coming.

Aquila · #47 09-21-2017, 02:59 PM

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So, Jesus was really saying.....

And when these things begin to come to pass in 2,000 years from now then they will look up, not you who I'm speaking to, but them 2,000 years from now. Then they will lift up their heads; for their redemption draweth nigh in 2,000 years from now.

Jesus spoke of the events as imminent because not even the man, Jesus Christ (the humanity), knew the day or hour:

Mark 13:32
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Aquila · #48 09-21-2017, 03:11 PM

One day we will wakeup to a world truly spinning out of control, and before the end of the day, a third of mankind will be dead. The entire world will be left reeling on its axis. Many Preterists will be digging themselves out of the ash and rubble of the aftermath, and they will encounter a beast, the likes of which will make the events of 70 A.D. look like the dress rehearsal of a Sunday school play.

We all know this deep down in our inner man. Even the Preterist knows this. But some have preached themselves into a corner that they can't escape from without losing the creditability they have fought so hard to gain after leaving Futurism for Preterism. This has put them on the fringe, reduced them to a minority, and left them without a prophetic message. One can only imagine the frustration that some of them might feel.

Aquila · #49 09-21-2017, 03:28 PM

All date setters are wrong, no man knows the day or hour. Whether they claim it is on September 23, 2017... or August 3, 70 AD... the date setters are all gravely mistaken.

Sean · #50 09-21-2017, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

One day we will wakeup to a world truly spinning out of control, and before the end of the day, a third of mankind will be dead. The entire world will be left reeling on its axis. Many Preterists will be digging themselves out of the ash and rubble of the aftermath, and they will encounter a beast, the likes of which will make the events of 70 A.D. look like the dress rehearsal of a Sunday school play.

We all know this deep down in our inner man. Even the Preterist knows this. But some have preached themselves into a corner that they can't escape from without losing the creditability they have fought so hard to gain after leaving Futurism for Preterism. This has put them on the fringe, reduced them to a minority, and left them without a prophetic message. One can only imagine the frustration that some of them might feel.

That's the truth Chris.