"Beards are sin!" False doctrine?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

This is my whole point Friend. Years ago I visited an Easter play at the Church Aquila came up in. It was ultracon as they come. Beards were as he testified "sin".

Yet at this PLAY the guy who PLAYED Simon Peter wore a costume beard! They were forced to admit in this PLAY about Jesus Christ that the Apostle Peter wore a beard. Acts 2:38 was first preached by a MAN WITH A BEARD!

Yet at the next meeting they probably went right on with the program teaching men are not holy or respectable or worse case scenario downright in sin!

Yep. I remember Sr. Pastor Shearer telling us that if we grew a beard we'd die and, "bust Hell wide open." I'm so glad someone here knows what I grew up in. Indeed, it was as ultra-con as they come. Yep, nearly 15 years. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

It does have something to do with it. When a person degrades the role of a Pastor, openly calling for men to rebel against them, it shows there's a bigger issue than just disagreeing with a dress code.

Ummm... I'm not concerned so much with dress codes that encourage modesty.

So posting that men should rebel against a Pastor who is placed to lead a church is okay? Hypocrisy. You flat out told men to rebel against their Pastor. And you're admin? Seriously?

I don't see that. I see Votive stating that men should take a stand for the Scriptures in the face of the traditions and doctrines of men.

What do you believe the role of the Pastor is? Please explain this, because your post shows you have no respect for the role. So what do you believe the role of a Pastor is?

The only one's without respect for the office of pastor are those who abuse it by claiming Pope like authority to invent doctrines in accordance to their personal opinions. That does far more damage to the office of pastor than a man who resists such pastoral abuse.

Wrong. We're not talking about church doctrine or salvation. Again, I have never in the years I've been alive and churches I have visited, I have never personally heard a Pastor or other minister say it is a sin to grow a beard. Having a dress code does NOT disregard the Word, nor does it remove God as the Head of the Body.

Many of us have. Many of us have also heard that it is a "sin" to disobey the pulpit, and so, whatever the pastor says is divine edict... even if it has no biblical foundation. And so, such pulpits often forbid beards, making it a sin. Here's the danger in this teaching... what if a pastor were to convince the church that it is the end of the world and that it would be better to commit mass suicide than to surrender to the authority of the Antichrist? This is the stuff that cults are made of.

Sure, because I hold a different view than you, I'M the one who has a skewed view and biased view...

Do you shave or grow a beard?

Votive said that we all are subject to having bias and therefore we all run the risk of having a skewed perception of an issue. Not just you, my brother.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

This is about a dress code, Mike. Not salvific doctrine.

No. This is about beards. Dress codes are about modesty. Beards are just about appearance.

[houston]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Man, I thought my dog was ugly........

Shouldn’t you be out milking cows?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Oh . . . I forgot . . . You don't need to quote scripture. Just because . . . I guess anything goes.

If you're not going to be honest about the context in which I posted this, I have no desire to respond to the rest of your post.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No. This is about beards. Dress codes are about modesty. Beards are just about appearance.

You're drunk. Or off your meds.

Facial hair is typically always included with a dress code.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Amanah

no, our preacher is younger, beards are not taught against.

the men on the platform for the play grew their real beards out.

the platform standards are for the old timers (my guess), eventually the beard thing will die out.

You think all the platform standards? What about uncut hair, the scriptural prohibition against jewelry and make up? Are these all for the old timers too? Will they die out in time?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by consapente89

You think all the platform standards? What about uncut hair, the scriptural prohibition against jewelry and make up? Are these all for the old timers too? Will they die out in time?

beards.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

You're drunk. Or off your meds.

Facial hair is typically always included with a dress code.

I just want you to understand that I'm not against sound modesty teaching. Modesty is biblical.

But prohibitions against beards are arbitrary human opinions.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by n david

If you're not going to be honest about the context in which I posted this, I have no desire to respond to the rest of your post.

Brother, if I have misrepresented what you intended to say, please accept my sincere apologies. I also extend an invitation to you to explain in your own words what you meant when you said the following . . .

"In fact, and you're really not going to like this, he doesn't have to have scripture and verse to do so. Period. End of story."

Please explain how I am being dishonest when I say that you believe that the pastor should not be held accountable to scripture. If I have misrepresented your position I hope to be man enough to offer sincere apologies. Please proceed to explain what you really meant to say. Maybe then you can respond to the rest of my post with relevant scripture references.