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Old 06-27-2018, 02:26 PM
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Perhaps some men wore trousers in certain contexts. But the average Judean is in consideration. How does one "gird up their loins" in trousers?
Gird up the loins means tighten your belt.

The guys who made that diagram must of had the same teacher as you.

So, when God told Job to grid up his loins, He wanted Job to fight him?

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If they had trousers under the tunic, the tunic would still get in the way. Which would mean they would have to gird up their loins still, trousers or not.

These people were fully covered just as God covered Adam and Eve in this garden. Genesis 3:21 "Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them."

This word clothed meant "to be fully clothed." Though they wore tunics they had trousers (breeches) and belts apparently under them. Regardless the tunic had to be tied up, to run, and fight properly. So Joe there goes that theory.
Hmmmm so God covered Adam and Eve in what I think you would agree would be appropriate attire?? Coats of skin no mention of trousers or breeches for Adam!
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people just cant admit they are wrong, its so sad.
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Old 06-27-2018, 02:31 PM
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Gird up the loins means tighten your belt.

The guys who made that diagram must of had the same teacher as you.

So, when God told Job to grid up his loins, He wanted Job to fight him?

Marijuana sure doesn't help intelligence.
Ok EB post the Greek definition of the word GIRD!!! Then try your explanation again!
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Gird up the loins means tighten your belt.

The guys who made that diagram must of had the same teacher as you.

So, when God told Job to grid up his loins, He wanted Job to fight him?

To gird up one's loins in this context is a figure of speech. God was essentially telling Job, "Stop complaining and be a man. Let me ask you something..."

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By now, you should know that I don't care one bit who agrees with me.
No you don't care in that sense. You care how you use it to your advantage.
You have one purpose and one purpose only.

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I just want to discuss topics, present my thoughts, and know that my thoughts aren't being mischaracterized to mean something I don't mean.
Chris, it is always clear to what you mean and to want ends you look.

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Why would you say that about Joe?
The above is your cherry on the cheese cake.

If you went to Jolo West Virginia they would pick you up.

Which is the real meaning to that verse.
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To gird up one's loins in this context is a figure of speech. God was essentially telling Job, "Stop complaining and be a man. Let me ask you something..."
Then if you know that then why the pictures of some goof ball wrapping of a rob? I thought you were in the military? Any limited understanding of ancient martial arts is about ease of movement. What you show as a grinding of the loins being a wrapping of the robe would have the guy on his face. Which Amana straightens out with the Persian fighters. Not that wrangled mess you depicted. Grinding is belting. A grid is a belt. Sure you were in the military?
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Certainly equestrian warriors wore trousers. Also, various royal officials wore trousers. However, were trousers the common attire of the average Judean farmer, peasant, or fisherman? I propose that while some men wore trousers, the trousers were utilitarian, not common wear in that culture or climate.
Why wouldn't trousers be useful? Must be useful Chris for them to last thousands of years until today. that man wore trousers more than wrapping a cloth around them like some towel. Are wearing a robe like a sheet with a hole cut into the top of the head.
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Then if you know that then why the pictures of some goof ball wrapping of a rob? I thought you were in the military? Any limited understanding of ancient martial arts is about ease of movement. What you show as a grinding of the loins being a wrapping of the robe would have the guy on his face. Which Amana straightens out with the Persian fighters. Not that wrangled mess you depicted. Grinding is belting. A grid is a belt. Sure you were in the military?
It's rather well known as to what gird up the loins means, even if you refuse to accept it.
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Umm Sister Amanah posted this and please answer this. And breeches are more then undergarments..

Ancient Pants

The wearing of pants in Western culture probably arose with the equestrian warrior cultures of Asia minor. The Sythians of the area encompassed by today's Ukraine, Bulgaria, and Romania wore loose pants tucked into boots. A portrait of a warrior wearing pants appears on a cup found in a burial site from 770 BC.

The Greek historian Herodotus mentions the Sythians waring pants. Herodotus also mentions that the Amazons (female warriors of Greek mythology) as clad in trousers. An Amazon depicted on a vessel in 470 BC is obviously wearing pants.

Pants were adapted from the Sythians by the Persians (of modern Iran) by the 5th century BC.

The Celts, a nomadic people of Central Europe, wore pants, though documentation is sketchy at best. The style, copied from Sythians and Persians, spread through Central Europe around the third century BC.

Ancient Greeks and Romans equated the wearing of trousers with savagery and referred to those early trouser clad people as barbarians. When the Romans conquered Celtic Briton in the first century AD, they called the Irish "wild people." But as cultures mixed, Roman soldiers took to wearing a form of pants called braccae that resembled a pair of tight Capris, and were much more appropriate for cold weather climates than togas.

Braccae is the Latin root of the word breeches, a type of knee length trouser. Braccae, however, had adjustable hems and could be worn knee length or ankle length.

The Thorsberg Trousers pictured on the right are a relic from the 4th century AC and were found in Denmark.

Damendorf Man, a bog body found in 1900, perished between 140 - 380 AD. A pair of neatly folded pants was found near the corpse.

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