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It was spearheaded in London by the "Society for the Promotion of Christianity Among the Jews" Because Theodor Herzl original plan was to convert all Jews to Christianity.
Was the Society founded by Herzl? The sources I read (which are not polemical or apologetic, but secular) indicate the Society had zero efforts expended to "convert Jews", and may have been largely a front group allowing a plausibly deniable mechanism for Jews to get into London during that time?
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It was spearheaded in London by the "Society for the Promotion of Christianity Among the Jews" Because Theodor Herzl original plan was to convert all Jews to Christianity.
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Was the Society founded by Herzl? The sources I read (which are not polemical or apologetic, but secular) indicate the Society had zero efforts expended to "convert Jews", and may have been largely a front group allowing a plausibly deniable mechanism for Jews to get into London during that time?
It was totally Anglicans. Herzl main objective was to convert Jews to Christianity. Wilberforce definitely wanted Jews to convert. All I ever read about the Society is their main thrust to convert Jews.
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Society for the Promotion of Christianity Among the Jews also wanted to have converted Jews to return to Palestine. This was an old idea which goes way back to the 17th century. They believed that to hasten the return of Christ they needed to convert the Jews and place them back in the land of Palestine.
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Society for the Promotion of Christianity Among the Jews also wanted to have converted Jews to return to Palestine. This was an old idea which goes way back to the 17th century. They believed that to hasten the return of Christ they needed to convert the Jews and place them back in the land of Palestine.
Yes, that was financed by the Drummond banking family of Scotland/England. They were the Crown bankers at the time, and Henry Drummond in the late 1700s and early 1800s financed Edward Irving and his Catholic Apostolic Church, and also helped Darby get going in the early 1800s. He also helped set up the Rothschilds in Britain around the same time frame.
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Yes, that was financed by the Drummond banking family of Scotland/England. They were the Crown bankers at the time, and Henry Drummond in the late 1700s and early 1800s financed Edward Irving and his Catholic Apostolic Church, and also helped Darby get going in the early 1800s. He also helped set up the Rothschilds in Britain around the same time frame.
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Yes.
This has always intrigued me: the alliance between the British/European nobility and the Jewish banking establishment. It's not just a "Jewish thing", the Carolingians are in on it, too...
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This has always intrigued me: the alliance between the British/European nobility and the Jewish banking establishment. It's not just a "Jewish thing", the Carolingians are in on it, too...
Goes even back to Medieval times pilgrimages to Jerusalem. Then there is Menasseh ben Israel and Oliver Cromwell. To send Jews to Jerusalem. The British saw themselves as the true defenders of the faith, and that Jews had to convert to Christianity. What is interesting is that it almost worked until Don Issac Abravanel came up with his commentary on the book of Daniel. Where he has the two legs of Iron as the Western and Eastern Roman Church, and the Muslims. Which would eventually destroy each other in war, and finally the Jew would be victors over all the world, ushering in a golden age.
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Goes even back to Medieval times pilgrimages to Jerusalem. Then there is Menasseh ben Israel and Oliver Cromwell. To send Jews to Jerusalem. The British saw themselves as the true defenders of the faith, and that Jews had to convert to Christianity. What is interesting is that it almost worked until Don Issac Abravanel came up with his commentary on the book of Daniel. Where he has the two legs of Iron as the Western and Eastern Roman Church, and the Muslims. Which would eventually destroy each other in war, and finally the Jew would be victors over all the world, ushering in a golden age.
Thank you for the reference. Just read the Wikipedia entry on him (I know, I know lol) and his story is fascinating.
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GOP controlled Congress approves and passes 38 BILLION dollar Obama aid-to-Israel package. Still no wall or swamp draining going on, though...


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