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Old 12-19-2018, 02:56 PM
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Q and Qanon is a LARP gone bad. It's become a cult, pretty much.
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Old 12-19-2018, 03:03 PM
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I'd give Trump a B-, which is really good considering he's had a 3 year fishing and hunting expedition into his administration; has to deal with not only liberal Dims, but also establishment Pubs who aren't any better; has a media which refuses to acknowledge the administration's successes and uses their 24/7 broadcasts and the internet to push negative stories against the POTUS.

I'm not going to bash him for failing with the wall thus far. Immigration has been a no-win fight with previous administrations. Too many Dims and establishment Pubs who refuse to pass a law the POTUS wants.

I believe the administration's successes far outweigh its failures to get things done.

NATO, Syria, tax cut, jobs, economy, trade deals, tariffs, Prison reform bill, Opportunity Zones & Urban Revitalization, etc... all very big successes by a POTUS who has had his hands tied by the Congressional swamp people and Mueller's investigation.

For Trump being branded a racist by the media and ignorant celebs, someone find another POTUS in our lifetime who has done more for minorities and urban communities than Trump. The First Step Act and Opportunity Zones & Urban Revitalization would have been headline and front page news if a Dim was in the WH. Not a peep from the media about it though.

Obama put blacks back years with his welfare push. Trump is bringing them opportunity to succeed.
Bombing a sovereign country, sending in troops to that country to overthrow its government, supporting terrorists in that country, all with no Congressional Declaration of War or really any need, are a "success"? We must use different dictionaries?

Trump could unilaterally shut down the border (national emergency!) and unilaterally order the deportation of all illegals when discovered (this has actually been done before). He could unilaterally end all "refugee resettlements" (refugees we need like a mouse needs more cats).

Instead, he "worked with Congress" to give ten billion dollars to Mexico and other countries whose emigrants are literally destroying our nation. Hey, if he can deploy troops and wage war wherever why not bomb Mexico until they secure their side of the border?

Doing all this great stuff for minorities? The people who don't and won't vote conservative no matter what? More gibs for the unending gibsmedats? Meanwhile election fraud goes unchecked, millions invading who will become "democrat voters', and none of these democruds going to jail for this treason? I mean LITERALLY TREASON for crying out loud.

America is toast. The math doesn't lie. The GOP drives us off the cliff at 60 mph, the dems do it at 80 mph, but either way we're going over the cliff. In fact, we've already left the pavement (that was back around the 60s-70s). The future involves a massively painful reset. Either that, or learn Mandarin if you want to communicate with the grandkids.
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Whats a LARP?
Live Action Role Playing.
What, as kids, we used to call "a game of Pretend." Where the players pretend to be this or that character in this or that adventure, usually making it up as they go.

Dungeons and Dragons, that sort of thing.
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Old 12-19-2018, 04:01 PM
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Live Action Role Playing.
What, as kids, we used to call "a game of Pretend." Where the players pretend to be this or that character in this or that adventure, usually making it up as they go.

Dungeons and Dragons, that sort of thing.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:21 PM
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For two years, Trump pretended to believe the president of the United States needs express authorization from Congress to defend the nation's borders and blamed the Republican majority for not "funding" the wall.
In a few weeks, he'll start blaming the Democratic House.
Last week—several whole days ago—Trump said over and over again that he would shut down the government if he didn't get funding for the wall—the precise thing he claims he needs. "We need border security. The wall is a part of border security," he said. "If we don't have border security, we'll shut down the government." Trump wore the shutdown over the wall as a badge of honor: "You want to know something? OK, you want to put that on me. I'll take it. You know what I'll say? Yes, if we don't get what we want ... I will shut down the government. Absolutely."
One week later, The Drudge Report:
WALL FUNDING OFF TABLE
In other words, Trump is doing exactly what I feared he would do in the worst conceivable way. He's not building the wall, while making ridiculous promises right up until the second before he folds.

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Old 12-20-2018, 10:07 AM
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Bombing a sovereign country, sending in troops to that country to overthrow its government, supporting terrorists in that country, all with no Congressional Declaration of War or really any need, are a "success"? We must use different dictionaries?
Trump hasn't sent troops anywhere.

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Trump could unilaterally shut down the border (national emergency!) and unilaterally order the deportation of all illegals when discovered (this has actually been done before). He could unilaterally end all "refugee resettlements" (refugees we need like a mouse needs more cats).
No, he can't. He's tried to use various presidential powers, but each time the courts have ruled against the administration. What would you have him do, dissolve the judicial system? Not sure what you want Trump to do. He's tried doing several different things relating to immigration and refugees. Regardless of what was allowed by previous administrations, the courts have been blocking every single move Trump tries to make.

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Instead, he "worked with Congress" to give ten billion dollars to Mexico and other countries whose emigrants are literally destroying our nation. Hey, if he can deploy troops and wage war wherever why not bomb Mexico until they secure their side of the border?
Trump hasn't deployed troops, nor has he waged war. He has to work with Congress, it's part of being the POTUS. If Mexico uses the money to build up their border security and make their country better, so be it.

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Doing all this great stuff for minorities? The people who don't and won't vote conservative no matter what? More gibs for the unending gibsmedats?
Wow. So the POTUS should only do things which will help those who will vote for a certain political party? Also, don't write off the minority vote. Trump currently has approval of 29% among blacks and 39% among hispanics. In polling a field of 2020 primary contenders, Trump leads everyone (both parties) among blacks and hispanics. Trump is showing minorities that it's okay to vote GOP. Not sure what you're trying to say. I won't try to guess, but your comments here don't look good.

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Meanwhile election fraud goes unchecked, millions invading who will become "democrat voters', and none of these democruds going to jail for this treason? I mean LITERALLY TREASON for crying out loud.
Election fraud, while certainly a criminal offense, is not treason. Literally.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:33 AM
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Trump hasn't sent troops anywhere.


No, he can't. He's tried to use various presidential powers, but each time the courts have ruled against the administration. What would you have him do, dissolve the judicial system? Not sure what you want Trump to do. He's tried doing several different things relating to immigration and refugees. Regardless of what was allowed by previous administrations, the courts have been blocking every single move Trump tries to make.


Trump hasn't deployed troops, nor has he waged war. He has to work with Congress, it's part of being the POTUS. If Mexico uses the money to build up their border security and make their country better, so be it.


Wow. So the POTUS should only do things which will help those who will vote for a certain political party? Also, don't write off the minority vote. Trump currently has approval of 29% among blacks and 39% among hispanics. In polling a field of 2020 primary contenders, Trump leads everyone (both parties) among blacks and hispanics. Trump is showing minorities that it's okay to vote GOP. Not sure what you're trying to say. I won't try to guess, but your comments here don't look good.


Election fraud, while certainly a criminal offense, is not treason. Literally.
I voted for Trump. Was a supporter of his. Thought he did some good things for the economy, with NKorea, and immigration. Lately, this stuff with Mueller, Flynn and Cohen have made him look pretty bad. The constant Twitter tirades have gotten old. I still think he gets a bad rap from fake news, but I'm now not sure if some of what they are accusing him of, isn't true....
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:35 AM
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It's evident, someone doesn't care for President Trump.
But, thankfully LOTS DO CARE!
He is doing the best he can do, and that has been exceptionally well,
considering the battles he has with the so many unamericans.
God bless you President Trump and may you be elected again
in 2020!!!
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I voted for Trump. Was a supporter of his. Thought he did some good things for the economy, with NKorea, and immigration. Lately, this stuff with Mueller, Flynn and Cohen have made him look pretty bad. The constant Twitter tirades have gotten old. I still think he gets a bad rap from fake news, but I'm now not sure if some of what they are accusing him of, isn't true....
Give a Special Prosecutor a bunch of attorneys, a team of specialists, and a blank check with carte blanche authority, no timeframe or any kind of guidelines; let them investigate your friends and family, interview them multiple times -- requiring them to remember every detail of emails or calls they made years previous ...

1) I do not believe there was any collusion between Trump campaign and Russia. None.
2) I do not believe there was any obstruction by Trump or his administration.
3) I DO believe Trump likely did some shady things relating to taxes and finances which, if put under the microscope, will be found out. I don't believe any man/woman in business and real estate like Trump is pure and clean. I believe anyone like Trump would have the same skeletons hiding in their closet.

If the SC or SDNY is going to prosecute hush money payments, they better throw the book at every other member of Congress who has done the same.
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Give a Special Prosecutor a bunch of attorneys, a team of specialists, and a blank check with carte blanche authority, no timeframe or any kind of guidelines; let them investigate your friends and family, interview them multiple times -- requiring them to remember every detail of emails or calls they made years previous ...

1) I do not believe there was any collusion between Trump campaign and Russia. None.
2) I do not believe there was any obstruction by Trump or his administration.
3) I DO believe Trump likely did some shady things relating to taxes and finances which, if put under the microscope, will be found out. I don't believe any man/woman in business and real estate like Trump is pure and clean. I believe anyone like Trump would have the same skeletons hiding in their closet.

If the SC or SDNY is going to prosecute hush money payments, they better throw the book at every other member of Congress who has done the same.
What is your opinion of the hush payments paid by Trump? Were they immoral? Of course. Were they illegal?
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