The Invasion of America continues

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by houston

"Subject to the 'jurisdiction' thereof" is going to be the legal point. An illegal is subject to our laws - stealing, speeding, etc., but not subject to our Constitution as a citizen would be.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The Supreme Court has never ruled on Illegal Aliens in this country. The only thing I could clearly see as making sense is the case in 1898, Wong Kim Ark. The court ruled that the children were legal citizens under the 14th Amendment because the parents were "legal" permanent resident citizens.

There is another case used that is talked about in the video. It was called the Slaughterhouse something or another...cant remember exactly but it was involving the "citizenship" of a native american man and the argument made was that the united states could not sue the man because he was a citizen of a Native American and thus under the tribes authority and allegiance. So since he could not be sued he was not under the judicial jurisdiction of the US and thus was NOT a citizen.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

There is another case used that is talked about in the video. It was called the Slaughterhouse something or another...cant remember exactly but it was involving the "citizenship" of a native american man and the argument made was that the united states could not sue the man because he was a citizen of a Native American and thus under the tribes authority and allegiance. So since he could not be sued he was not under the judicial jurisdiction of the US and thus was NOT a citizen.

The Native American tribes had a complicated arrangement with the US government. Technically they are independent nations within the U.S. and they have their own laws in their tribal areas, they even have their own police force and even their own courts. However since they are still within the United Sates the laws of the US still apply to them when they step outside of their nations.

They are still considered United States Citizens within its Judicial jurisdiction.

[Esaias]

So Trump's plan to protect the borders and the territorial integrity of our nation is to let all these caravaning invaders come into the US, and stay in the tent cities he's going to build for them, where we the taxpayer's will feed, clothe, and essentially take care of these people, until a "determination" can be made in each person's case?

I mean, I may not understand 8 dimensional chess, but it seems to me that if we ended welfare for illegals, treated illegals like practically every other country does (deporting them), we could save a lot of money AND curb the flow of illegals into the country, all at the same time. But like I said, I'm not a Grandmaster of 8D chess.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

The Native American tribes had a complicated arrangement with the US government. Technically they are independent nations within the U.S. and they have their own laws in their tribal areas, they even have their own police force and even their own courts. However since they are still within the United Sates the laws of the US still apply to them when they step outside of their nations.

They are still considered United States Citizens within its Judicial jurisdiction.

Indian Citizenship Act

Other short titles Indian Freedom Citizenship Suffrage Act of 1924
Long title An Act to authorize the Secretary of the Interior to issue certificates of citizenship to Indians.
Acronyms (colloquial) ICA
Nicknames Snyder Act
Enacted by the 68th United States Congress
Effective June 2, 1924
Citations
Public law 68-175
Statutes at Large 43 Stat. 253
Codification
Titles amended 8 U.S.C.: Aliens and Nationality
U.S.C. sections amended 8 U.S.C. ch. 12, subch. III § 1401b
Legislative history
Introduced in the House as H.R. 6355 by Homer P. Snyder (R-NY) on February 22, 1924
Committee consideration by House Indian Affairs, Senate Indian Affairs
Passed the House on March 18, 1924 (Passed)
Passed the Senate on May 15, 1924 (Passed)
Agreed to by the House on May 23, 1924 (Agreed) and by the on
Signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924


The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was proposed by Representative Homer P. Snyder (R) of New York and granted full U.S. citizenship to the indigenous peoples of the United States, called "Indians" in this Act. While the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution defines as citizens any persons born in the U.S. and subject to its jurisdiction, the amendment had been interpreted to not apply to Native people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act

[jfrog]

I don’t know what subject to the jurisdiction of legally means but it sounds to me like it is meant to exclude those born in the U.S. that are not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S.

It definitely applies to foreign soldiers. It applies to diplomats as far as I know.

This is why the invaders talk is so important. If illegal immigrants truly are invaders then they clearly aren’t subject to U.S. jurisdiction. IMO. It all ties together.

[Esaias]

Democratic Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal (Wash.) joined the migrant caravan on Saturday in their attempt to cross the border, condemning President Donald Trump for "creating the crisis." She said she was able to help five asylum seekers gain access to the United States.


"I was able to successfully assist 5 asylum seekers – 2 unaccompanied minors, a mother and her 9 year old child, and a young man with a serious medical condition – into the United States," she wrote in a tweet.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-...ers-enter-u-s/

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Democratic Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal (Wash.) joined the migrant caravan on Saturday in their attempt to cross the border, condemning President Donald Trump for "creating the crisis." She said she was able to help five asylum seekers gain access to the United States.


"I was able to successfully assist 5 asylum seekers – 2 unaccompanied minors, a mother and her 9 year old child, and a young man with a serious medical condition – into the United States," she wrote in a tweet.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-...ers-enter-u-s/

So a democrat lawmaker engages in human trafficking of minors and possibly dangerously contagious sick people, brags about it publicly, and gets away with it.

[Esaias]

EL PASO, Texas (KFOX14) —
About 518 migrants are expected to be released by U.S Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Wednesday, according Annunciation House director Ruben Garcia.

That makes more than 1,000 migrants released in the past three days.

https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/about-...-past-few-days

[Esaias]

The Trump administration is preparing to send Central American migrants caught along the southern border to Border Patrol stations "across the entire nation," according to a senior Border Patrol official who confirmed the plans Friday.
With more than 4,500 people being caught each day crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, the agency has run out of room at its Border Patrol facilities in the four border states. The agency has started looking at its facilities around the country, which are mostly along the northern border with Canada and coastal states.

...

The CBP official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to brief reporters on the agency's internal discussions, said politics is not playing a role in its search for places to process and release migrant families despite President Donald Trump's comments that he wants to send migrants to so-called "sanctuary cities" that do not fully cooperate with federal immigration officials.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/3710025002/