What would you do in my place?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

My plans have been foiled. Partly my fault, maybe like 1/8 my fault. Ha.
Anyway, I may be leaving soon.

PM me where to.....

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

PM me where to.....

I'm on yahoo.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Hmmm..not to detract from this but that is sort of how I feel...though I have never tried to commit suicide.

Is she alone?

Whoa whoa whoa! Hang on just a minute! You are not useless and we love you around here, Brother. Get all that nonsense out of your head right away. That's just a big fat lie, sent straight from the pits of Hell!

[justasaint]

Waiting for the upc to change won't happen in our lifetime.

Where in scripture do you have to get permission to start a work spreading the good news, awhhhh only in the sacred manual.

join the group that most represents your views and more importantly His views

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rico

Whoa whoa whoa! Hang on just a minute! You are not useless and we love you around here, Brother. Get all that nonsense out of your head right away. That's just a big fat lie, sent straight from the pits of Hell!

Thank you brother :-)

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by keith4him

I have reached out to the local UPC presbyter in my section, but because the local city Pastor believes that he should be the only UPC pastor in his town, he will not allow a competing church.

Our city has 70,000 people in it.

I agree with the fundamental doctrine of the UPCI, always have, always will.

But my attempts to be a part of the organization in which I was raised and have tremendous appreciation and respect for, have up to this point in my life been unfruitful.

However I have been asked by a large non-UPC group (many, if not all the ministers are ex-upc) to fellowship and eventually join their group.

Should I do this?

Or remain independent, hoping for a better day in the Western District?

What say ye?

I say if the new org teaches the same doctrine and you can do what God has called you to then pray about it and if you feel peace do what God has called you to.If you keep a right spirit and right attitude you will be blessed.We did this when God called us to do a work.We were independant but joined a ministers fellowship.The local ALJC pastor allowed us to work out of his church and bring people so we could get started.God is good.Its about souls and the will of God.We actually helped a small home missions church that was UPC in the neigboring city do out reach and get revivals off the ground when we grew large enough.Its not about organizations but about Jesus.

[Felicity]

Rev 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

It's pretty hard to walk through a door that is shut. But if God opens the door, who can shut it?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by keith4him

I have reached out to the local UPC presbyter in my section, but because the local city Pastor believes that he should be the only UPC pastor in his town, he will not allow a competing church.

Our city has 70,000 people in it.

I agree with the fundamental doctrine of the UPCI, always have, always will.

But my attempts to be a part of the organization in which I was raised and have tremendous appreciation and respect for, have up to this point in my life been unfruitful.

However I have been asked by a large non-UPC group (many, if not all the ministers are ex-upc) to fellowship and eventually join their group.

Should I do this?

Or remain independent, hoping for a better day in the Western District?

What say ye?

Only you can answer that question.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by keith4him

I think they would tolerate me, one of my questions is to them will be I still feel Acts 2:38 to be normative response to the Gospel, is there room in your big tents for me, I want to be accepted not simply tolerated?

There you go bro.

My response was going to be that you should join or not join this group on their own merits.

If they are someone you would have a "hankerin'" to join then, by all means, join up. If, had they not asked, they were not necessarily a group that you would have had a desire to join up with then keep looking because God's match for you is still out there.

I think in the post I quoted you have answered your own question.

And as far as the UPC thing... don't let it get under your skin (and I would expect that you would not allow that anyway).

Accept it as the answer (for now) so that you may live peaceably with these brethren. If there are underlying issues then God will cure them if that is His will. Until then that is the way to live peaceably with these brethren.

Just do your best... and don't worry about an affiliation... I know my opinion doesn't amount to much around here but I respect guys like you...