John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

You made the liar claim.

Again, how much of the video of the sons, whom you accused, have you watched?

In a round number.

If you can’t be honest here, it is quite telling.

Also Steve, if I call them liars, then prove to me that they are not liars.

You are their defender.

I don't get that you now instead of focusing on the angel sightings, or the Ron Wyatt Ellen G White prophecy. The blood sample location of scientists or labrotory. You now want to walz the Wyatt boys around?

[Evang.Benincasa]

If Ron Wyatt is a truth teller. Then he had four angels tell him that the tablets within the ark of the covenant will be revealed openly, when Ellen G White's prophecy comes to pass. If anyone believes any other portion of his story, then you logically must believe this part. He is either a truth teller, or a liar.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Also Steve, if I call them liars, then prove to me that they are not liars.

So you call the two sons liars without listening to any of the videos.

Quite telling.

Try to learn how to have an honest discussion.

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There are nine videos.
Come back after you have listened at least to 15-30 minutes, preferably more.
And I listened to all nine in full. (Something I do not normally do!)

2007 interviews with Ronnie and Danny Wyatt by Rebecca Tourniaire (her mom did the interviews)
https://www.purebibleforum.com/index...terviews.1261/

You could actually learn. A. Little.

At the time of these interviews, Ron had passed 7+ years earlier.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

So you call the two sons liars without listening to any of the videos.

Steven, so anyone who doesn't buy the two shifty looking dudes stories didn't watch the video?

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Quite telling.

Yes, that you totally agree with me that Ron Wyatt isn't telling the whole truth. Hence the reason you have been all over the place. You don't accept any of Ellen G White's prophecies. You shy away from the angel story like it was kryptonite.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Try to learn how to have an honest discussion.

Start with taking your own advice.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

There are nine videos.
Come back after you have listened at least to 15-30 minutes, preferably more.

Steve, you believe that listening to hours of these two guys will change the mind of someone who doesn't buy the story? Steve, just point out the time stamp of the golden nugget. I've gone through enough of the Ron Wyatt and family saga that its mind numbing.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

And I listened to all nine in full. (Something I do not normally do!)

Steve, how long ago was this? i'm not going to get an answer. But Steve, I think you need to do another binge watch of the Wyatt boys.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

2007 interviews with Ronnie and Danny Wyatt by Rebecca Tourniaire (her mom did the interviews)

Her mom? Steve, are you serious?

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

You could actually learn. A. Little.

Learn A. Little? Who is A. Little? Was he one of the four angels?

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

At the time of these interviews, Ron had passed 7+ years earlier.

What does that have to do with the videos content? Why are you bringing that up? What bearing does it have on the interview with his sons?

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Steve, you believe that listening to hours of these two guys will change the mind of someone who doesn't buy the story? .

You called the two sons liars.

Yet you watched nothing.
And have no objection to a single word they spoke.

And I believe they were honest in all nine videos, so I do not look for a special time stamp.

You are the shifty one here, accusing and then playing all sorts of games to avoid responsibility.

Try to man up.
You can simply withdraw your accusation of being liars, or you can do some homework.

The question here is your integrity, and, in this case, lack thereof.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

You called the two sons liars.

Steve, you are a sore loser.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Yet you watched nothing.
And have no objection to a single word they spoke.

Steve, how long ago did you watch the video? It really sounds like you don't remember much.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

And I believe they were honest in all nine videos, so I do not look for a special time stamp.

Steve, you believe. If anyone goes back through this thread and checks each post by you. They will notice things like faith, and belief. You expect people to watch these two individuals and get a burning in the bosom?

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

You are the shifty one here, accusing and then playing all sorts of games to avoid responsibility.

Steve, I totally understand how you feel. You have realized that Ron Wyatt and his family are all grifters. You have been taken for a ride, you really wanted to believe in the angels, the ark of the covenant, and the Jesus 24 chromosome blood on the mercy seat. You have read through these posts and ran from every question. Now you are swinging from this red herring like it was a lifeline. Let it go Steve, you owe Ron Wyatt nothing. You know that Ellen G White was a false prophet. You know that Ron Wyatt exposed himself when he claimed the angel supported Ellen G White's prophecy. Steve, you can be free from the chains of this nonsense. Don't shoot the messenger. Accept what you already know that is false about the Ron Wyatt story.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Try to man up.
You can simply withdraw your accusation of being liars, or you can do some homework.

The question here is your integrity, and, in this case, lack thereof.

Take your own advice, you are only psychological projecting onto the one showing you logic. You can be free from the chains of this deep deception. Ron Wyatt built this nonsense around his denomination. He has the angel advocating the Sunday Law doctrine of Ellen G White. You know that Ellen G White was a false prophet, so why would you take the word of the supposed angel? Which Ron Wyatt wants us to believe in? Steve, please snap out of it.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Also Steve, if I call them liars, then prove to me that they are not liars.

Wow.

You totally flunk Logic 101.

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From google, to help you:

"He who asserts must prove" is a fundamental principle, also known as the burden of proof (or onus probandi), which states that the party making a claim or allegation is responsible for providing evidence to support its validity.”

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

You called the two sons liars.

Yet you watched nothing.
And have no objection to a single word they spoke.

And I believe they were honest in all nine videos, so I do not look for a special time stamp.

You are the shifty one here, accusing and then playing all sorts of games to avoid responsibility.

Try to man up.
You can simply withdraw your accusation of being liars, or you can do some homework.

The question here is your integrity, and, in this case, lack thereof.

Brother, the guy (Wyatt) made some claims, which can not be verified, and which are surrounded by data that makes those claims questionable. So, the claims being unverifiable, what is the point?

Also, regarding the shroud and the "sudarium", how is it that the Beast church of satan has been preserving all these "proofs" of the resurrection of Christ? Is it not more likely that these relics are either falsifications, forgeries, or outright "lying signs and wonders"? I mean, seriously?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Wow.

You totally flunk Logic 101.

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From google, to help you:

"He who asserts must prove" is a fundamental principle, also known as the burden of proof (or onus probandi), which states that the party making a claim or allegation is responsible for providing evidence to support its validity.”

Steve, YOU have been the one making the claims that the Wyatts are the tellers of truth. YOU my boy.

Steve so start proving!!!

But you know that there is no Ellen G White preaching angels flowing around Ron Wyatt's ark of the covenant. Steve, come on, break free!

[diakonos]

No one believes that I was visited by a leprechaun riding on a pink Pegasus.