Can Females Pastor ? - Page 11

Scott Hutchinson · #**101** 07-04-2007, 07:56 PM

What did Paul mean when He said he did not allow a woman to ursurp a man ?
Perhaps someone has some insight on that verse.

HeavenlyOne · #**102** 07-04-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Here is a question in the OT. why didn't women serve in the priesthood ?

Why didn't men from any other tribe than the Levites serve in the priesthood?

Pressing-On · #**103** 07-04-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

What did Paul mean when He said he did not allow a woman to ursurp a man ?
Perhaps someone has some insight on that verse.

Brother Scott,
The word, "usurp" means to "dominate", so he doesn't want us to dominate a man's authority.

We see in Eph 5:21, "Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God." It then goes on to give admonition to both the husband and the wife.

It seems to be saying, at the outset, that we submit to each other, which can only be out of love and respect or you wouldn't do it.

I see a wonderful balance here. If the Lord is telling the man to love his wife as Christ loved the church, then he is also telling a women to respect a man by not being dominate over his authority.

We don't Lord over each other.

committed · #**104** 07-04-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

What did Paul mean when He said he did not allow a woman to ursurp a man ?
Perhaps someone has some insight on that verse.

The dictionary meaning of 'usurp' is:

To seize and hold (the power or rights of another, for example) by force or without legal authority. See Synonyms at appropriate.
To take over or occupy without right: usurp a neighbor's land.
To take the place of (another) without legal authority; supplant.

If a woman is under submission to God and to the authority above her, and has been called of God, she is not usurping authority. Some women have answered the call of God because a man refused. I see a number of places in the scripture where women were used in a spiritual capacity.

#**105** 07-05-2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyRev

~Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn~

Now you know good and well with a nickname like LadyRev you cant stand not to read this thread. Youll have to be right in the middle of it and whether you post you will have to read it everyday.

#**106** 07-05-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Has anyone ever thought that when Paul said "the husband of ONE wife" he was not saying he had to be married but rather that if he is married it must be to one woman?

Jesus was not married and neither was Paul

Jesus is betrothed to the Church and betrothal is as legally binding as marriage. Paul wasn't a bishop (pastor).

#**107** 07-05-2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I've heard that it meant a one woman man before.

As far as remarriage after a divorce, that varies from church to church and from district to district. Often it is based on "who you know", not principle.

The Jews had a very liberal policy on who could divorce and then remarry based on Deut 24:1-2 which was pretty loosely interpreted in the first century (and maybe even in the church) as:
1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes, because he hath found some unbecoming thing in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. 2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.

But we know that Jesus didn't teach it that way. He said that unless the divorce was for the cause of fornication (which may not be the same thing as adultery) anyone who marries someone else after getting divorced is committing adultery and anyone who marries a divorced person causes that person to commit adultery.

Scott Hutchinson · #**108** 07-05-2007, 12:05 PM

Thank you all for the responses and varying views as yall have given me somethings to ponder.

LadyRev · #**109** 07-05-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonix

Now you know good and well with a nickname like LadyRev you cant stand not to read this thread. Youll have to be right in the middle of it and whether you post you will have to read it everyday.

Actually, I don't get to read or post as much as I would like to.