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Old 07-09-2007, 06:21 AM
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Telling a "preacher" that you don't need a pastor is like telling someone who sells Avon that you don't wear make-up. They cannot even imagine it. lol.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:23 AM
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Telling a "preacher" that you don't need a pastor is like telling someone who sells Avon that you don't wear make-up. They cannot even imagine it. lol.
I never said I don't need a pastor, Sheltiedad.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:26 AM
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Sorry, was just another of my random analogies... and I personally don't need one.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:28 AM
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Sorry, was just another of my random analogies... and I personally don't need one.
Get ready cause BP will next be telling you how much you need to repent and pray back through.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:30 AM
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I know, that's why I said it.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:35 AM
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I know, that's why I said it.
Hehe. Glutton for punishment, huh?
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:41 AM
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Thanks HO, Bro. Price, St Matt and others here that see and understand what was actually said rather than all of this intentional twisting of words. Shame on the rest of you. That is not even Christian to do so.

I am a little surprised that I would even open such an idiot thread as this, especially with such a title.

Man alive!

I can't believe this. This will be my one and only post here on this thread. The heathern are raging and the people are imagining vain things. Let 'em have at it. Besides, my time is greatly limited.

Anyway, for all of you that are going to quote me, please quote me correctly. Example: I never said anyone at the La Camp was in demonic worship. I did not say that POA was in demonic worship nor did I say that any of their songs were demonic worship.

But then, regardless of what was actually said, it matters naught. You will just make up things and pretent that I said it anyway. Shame on you. That is not even Christian to do that.

Music is a language of the spirit world. It matters little concerning the wonderful words put in a song if the sound is not right. Sooner or later, given enough time, the words will begin to conform to the sound.

If the devil can give us his sound in the church, it is only a matter of time before he gives us his words. The words will eventually align to the sound. We must not follow the pied piper to destruction.

I know that some of you do not understand what I am saying here, as evidenced from the remarks that I've read. It is truly sad, giving me little hope for the future of the Apolstolic movement if this sentiment becomes widespread and total.

When Evan Roberts was asked if England could possibly have revival, he recognized the importance of the right sound. He said, "Can they sing?"

Psa 89:15, "Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk O Lord, in the light of thy countenance."

There are some people that do not know the joyful sound. There are some who do. If you do not know the joyful sound of the Spirit, I would like to know that you will seek to know it with ears atuned to the sound of the Spirit. There is the sound of the Dove and there is the sound of the Crow. Do you know the difference?

The devil wants to steal our music. Before he was cast down from the realms of light, he was the chief musician there. He lost his preeminisence in that realm. He has been jealous over God's heavenly sound desiring to capture it to destroy it ever since his downfall.

vs 16: "In thy name shall they (who know the joyful sound) rejoice all the day: and in thy righteousness shall they (who know the joyful sound) be exalted."

If you have not been to the top of the mountain to behold the glory of the Lord, I can certainly understand how this might be somewhat confused for you. I don't blame you. I suppose I would be confused too. But, I've been there. I heard the sound. I know the difference.

vs 17, "For thou art the glory of their (who know the joyful sound) strength: and in thy favour our horn shall be exalted."

Regardless how good the words of a song, if shrouded within the sound of unsanctified music born of unconsecrated spirits that has never climbed the mountain to the top to see the glory of the Lord, the sound is wrong.

Want me to explain how this is so? It would be imposible to do in words. If you can't tell sanctified music born of consecrated spirits and what is not, I am afraid that you have never truly become an eyewitness of His majesty and beheld His glory behind the veil.

Has the evening shades so fallen that there is little light left anymore? I am heartened only by the words of the Prophet so long ago, "...in the evening time there shall be light."
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:57 AM
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Good post Bro. Strange
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:39 AM
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Thanks HO, Bro. Price, St Matt and others here that see and understand what was actually said rather than all of this intentional twisting of words. Shame on the rest of you. That is not even Christian to do so.

I am a little surprised that I would even open such an idiot thread as this, especially with such a title.

Man alive!

I can't believe this. This will be my one and only post here on this thread. The heathern are raging and the people are imagining vain things. Let 'em have at it. Besides, my time is greatly limited.

Anyway, for all of you that are going to quote me, please quote me correctly. Example: I never said anyone at the La Camp was in demonic worship. I did not say that POA was in demonic worship nor did I say that any of their songs were demonic worship.

But then, regardless of what was actually said, it matters naught. You will just make up things and pretent that I said it anyway. Shame on you. That is not even Christian to do that.

Music is a language of the spirit world. It matters little concerning the wonderful words put in a song if the sound is not right. Sooner or later, given enough time, the words will begin to conform to the sound.

If the devil can give us his sound in the church, it is only a matter of time before he gives us his words. The words will eventually align to the sound. We must not follow the pied piper to destruction.

I know that some of you do not understand what I am saying here, as evidenced from the remarks that I've read. It is truly sad, giving me little hope for the future of the Apolstolic movement if this sentiment becomes widespread and total.

When Evan Roberts was asked if England could possibly have revival, he recognized the importance of the right sound. He said, "Can they sing?"

Psa 89:15, "Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk O Lord, in the light of thy countenance."

There are some people that do not know the joyful sound. There are some who do. If you do not know the joyful sound of the Spirit, I would like to know that you will seek to know it with ears atuned to the sound of the Spirit. There is the sound of the Dove and there is the sound of the Crow. Do you know the difference?

The devil wants to steal our music. Before he was cast down from the realms of light, he was the chief musician there. He lost his preeminisence in that realm. He has been jealous over God's heavenly sound desiring to capture it to destroy it ever since his downfall.

vs 16: "In thy name shall they (who know the joyful sound) rejoice all the day: and in thy righteousness shall they (who know the joyful sound) be exalted."

If you have not been to the top of the mountain to behold the glory of the Lord, I can certainly understand how this might be somewhat confused for you. I don't blame you. I suppose I would be confused too. But, I've been there. I heard the sound. I know the difference.

vs 17, "For thou art the glory of their (who know the joyful sound) strength: and in thy favour our horn shall be exalted."

Regardless how good the words of a song, if shrouded within the sound of unsanctified music born of unconsecrated spirits that has never climbed the mountain to the top to see the glory of the Lord, the sound is wrong.

Want me to explain how this is so? It would be imposible to do in words. If you can't tell sanctified music born of consecrated spirits and what is not, I am afraid that you have never truly become an eyewitness of His majesty and beheld His glory behind the veil.

Has the evening shades so fallen that there is little light left anymore? I am heartened only by the words of the Prophet so long ago, "...in the evening time there shall be light."
Bro. Strange,

I certainly don't mean to question you negatively nor do I mean to disrespect you in any way. I am one of those posters who made comments so I feel obligated to respond now as well.

I am fully aware that you have the right to "feel" whatever you want to feel in the service. But you say we twisted your words when in fact we only read your intended message. You say now that you made no reference to "demonic worship" while at the same time post here that "the devil gives us his sound" and "the devil wants to steal our music". You again insinuate that the worship at the camp was influenced by the devil...which would make it demonic in nature...right?

You say that the music was "shrouded within the sound of unsactified music born of unconsecrated spirits"...I was always taught concerning things like this that if it's not of God it is of another spiritual influence...the devil...which you appear to agree with...so then by your own admition this music was "demonically influenced"....right?

Your reference before of the worship being of the same spirit that moses faced when the people were danceing around the golden calf...if that was not demonic worship then what was it?

So if in fact this was not your intention, then perhaps you can now explain what these references concerning the devil's influence and golden calf worship at the camp mean.
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:41 AM
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Anyway, for all of you that are going to quote me, please quote me correctly. Example: I never said anyone at the La Camp was in demonic worship. I did not say that POA was in demonic worship nor did I say that any of their songs were demonic worship.
Elder Strange, I agree with you that you did not say that POA was in demonic worship or that you said their songs were demonic worship.

Just very clarification I never missed quoted you, I took your quotes directly from the thread that you started.

You're the one that described the music from that service as "weird chanting music".

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=285


You are also the one that described the music from the same service as "hearing the worship of an idol".

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=463

Since POA was the church that lead worship for the entire service Wednesday nite, there can be no other conclusion than you hold them responsible for the "weird chanting music" and "hearing the worship of an idol"!!
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