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Old 07-09-2007, 09:46 AM
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Thanks HO, Bro. Price, St Matt and others here that see and understand what was actually said rather than all of this intentional twisting of words. Shame on the rest of you. That is not even Christian to do so.

I am a little surprised that I would even open such an idiot thread as this, especially with such a title.

Man alive!

I can't believe this. This will be my one and only post here on this thread. The heathern are raging and the people are imagining vain things. Let 'em have at it. Besides, my time is greatly limited.

Anyway, for all of you that are going to quote me, please quote me correctly. Example: I never said anyone at the La Camp was in demonic worship. I did not say that POA was in demonic worship nor did I say that any of their songs were demonic worship.

But then, regardless of what was actually said, it matters naught. You will just make up things and pretent that I said it anyway. Shame on you. That is not even Christian to do that.

Music is a language of the spirit world. It matters little concerning the wonderful words put in a song if the sound is not right. Sooner or later, given enough time, the words will begin to conform to the sound.

If the devil can give us his sound in the church, it is only a matter of time before he gives us his words. The words will eventually align to the sound. We must not follow the pied piper to destruction.

I know that some of you do not understand what I am saying here, as evidenced from the remarks that I've read. It is truly sad, giving me little hope for the future of the Apolstolic movement if this sentiment becomes widespread and total.

When Evan Roberts was asked if England could possibly have revival, he recognized the importance of the right sound. He said, "Can they sing?"

Psa 89:15, "Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk O Lord, in the light of thy countenance."

There are some people that do not know the joyful sound. There are some who do. If you do not know the joyful sound of the Spirit, I would like to know that you will seek to know it with ears atuned to the sound of the Spirit. There is the sound of the Dove and there is the sound of the Crow. Do you know the difference?

The devil wants to steal our music. Before he was cast down from the realms of light, he was the chief musician there. He lost his preeminisence in that realm. He has been jealous over God's heavenly sound desiring to capture it to destroy it ever since his downfall.

vs 16: "In thy name shall they (who know the joyful sound) rejoice all the day: and in thy righteousness shall they (who know the joyful sound) be exalted."

If you have not been to the top of the mountain to behold the glory of the Lord, I can certainly understand how this might be somewhat confused for you. I don't blame you. I suppose I would be confused too. But, I've been there. I heard the sound. I know the difference.

vs 17, "For thou art the glory of their (who know the joyful sound) strength: and in thy favour our horn shall be exalted."

Regardless how good the words of a song, if shrouded within the sound of unsanctified music born of unconsecrated spirits that has never climbed the mountain to the top to see the glory of the Lord, the sound is wrong.

Want me to explain how this is so? It would be imposible to do in words. If you can't tell sanctified music born of consecrated spirits and what is not, I am afraid that you have never truly become an eyewitness of His majesty and beheld His glory behind the veil.

Has the evening shades so fallen that there is little light left anymore? I am heartened only by the words of the Prophet so long ago, "...in the evening time there shall be light."
Amen Elder!

The Golden Calf may be raised up, but some will not bow or sacrifice to it. There is a remnant, even within our ranks, who are WILLING to stand for holiness, regardless of the cost. The music must be right, but beyond that, the spirit of the music must be right.

There is light now, Elder. Be encouraged.
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:48 AM
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Elder Strange, I agree with you that you did not say that POA was in demonic worship or that you said their songs were demonic worship.

Just very clarification I never missed quoted you, I took your quotes directly from the thread that you started.

You're the one that described the music from that service as "weird chanting music".

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=285


You are also the one that described the music from the same service as "hearing the worship of an idol".

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=463

Since POA was the church that lead worship for the entire service Wednesday nite, there can be no other conclusion than you hold them responsible for the "weird chanting music" and "hearing the worship of an idol"!!
But I don't get the double speak and would like an answer...

Bottom line, he said the music was like the golden calf worship...

Golden calf worship is demonic period!!!

How can you call the worship GCW and then come back and say that you didn't call it demonic? And if it was in fact GCW, then those who were leading it were involved in demonically influenced worship? right?

You can't come back now and say "Poor little me getting picked on." the fact is he said it was worship influenced by another spirit...if that is not demonic, then what is it?

I would love an answer here!
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:49 AM
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Amen Elder!

The Golden Calf may be raised up, but some will not bow or sacrifice to it. There is a remnant, even within our ranks, who are WILLING to stand for holiness, regardless of the cost. The music must be right, but beyond that, the spirit of the music must be right.

There is light now, Elder. Be encouraged.
See...even you go right back at the Golden calf because HE brought it up!

Then do you think that the worship was demonic?
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:52 AM
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:55 AM
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But I don't get the double speak and would like an answer...

Bottom line, he said the music was like the golden calf worship...

Golden calf worship is demonic period!!!

How can you call the worship GCW and then come back and say that you didn't call it demonic? And if it was in fact GCW, then those who were leading it were involved in demonically influenced worship? right?

You can't come back now and say "Poor little me getting picked on." the fact is he said it was worship influenced by another spirit...if that is not demonic, then what is it?

I would love an answer here!
T1, I agree; IMO he's calling it devil worship.

He's was attempting to take the "high road" and use the "mis-quoted card".

I'm was simply taking him to task on the actual verbage he used.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:01 AM
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T1, I agree; IMO he's calling it devil worship.

He's was attempting to take the "high road" and use the "mis-quoted card".

I'm was simply taking him to task on the actual verbage he used.
I am too.

Now he has started another thread just going after those of us who questioned it.

He is saying, "I attacked no one" and "I didn't call it demonic". That's nonsence! He attacked the entire LA District and called the worship Golden Calf worship for Pete's sake!

I want an answer...

WAS THE WORSHIP AROUND THE GOLDEN CALF DEMONIC?
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:07 AM
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I am too.

Now he has started another thread just going after those of us who questioned it.

He is saying, "I attacked no one" and "I didn't call it demonic". That's nonsence! He attacked the entire LA District and called the worship Golden Calf worship for Pete's sake!

I want an answer...

WAS THE WORSHIP AROUND THE GOLDEN CALF DEMONIC?
I don't think it was demonic... I do think that it was sinfully flesh doing what would come natural to fallen man... worshipping a graven image... and fulfulling the lust of the flesh...

Men without God will fill that void somehow...
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:09 AM
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I don't think it was demonic... I do think that it was sinfully flesh doing what would come natural to fallen man... worshipping a graven image... and fulfulling the lust of the flesh...

Men without God will fill that void somehow...
But BS said it was influenced by the devil...

Let me get this right....Do you then agree with some that the worship around the Golden calf was not demonic in nature?
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:09 AM
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Listen, don't you all know you're just novices and don't understand the things of the Spirit? I mean, don't y'all read???
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:13 AM
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Listen, don't you all know you're just novices and don't understand the things of the Spirit? I mean, don't y'all read???
You're rightl, us and all the elders that was on the LA Dist. platform last week!!
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