Would you attend a church that did not require tithes?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

What are you talking about that I was incorrect on?

ALL the tithe was given to the Levites...

Then 10% of that was to be counted as their own.
Another 10% was to be counted as the priests.

But... please provide scripture for what you are saying here and I will be glad to see what it is that I am missing.

NOPE you are incorrect!
The tithe of the poor or the third year was for the poor although the levites distributed it was NOT theirs although God did tell them not to forsake the levite even in this tithe IT WAS EXTRA!
The rejoicing tithe was for the worshipper to use during the feasts and again they were not to forsake the levite so he got extra here.
These tithes are found in Deut. 12 & 14.
However in the 1st tithe ALL that tenth was given to the levite it was theirs.
Num 18:21.
You are confused I am not saying this belittling you but you need to reread your passages. The pieces of the puzzle will only fit in the right places.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

NOPE you are incorrect!
The tithe of the poor or the third year was for the poor although the levites distributed it was NOT theirs although God did tell them not to forsake the levite even in this tithe IT WAS EXTRA!
The rejoicing tithe was for the worshipper to use during the feasts and again they were not to forsake the levite so he got extra here.
These tithes are found in Deut. 12 & 14.
However in the 1st tithe ALL that tenth was given to the levite it was theirs.
Num 18:21.
You are confused I am not saying this belittling you but you need to reread your passages. The pieces of the puzzle will only fit in the right places.

Concerning the chapters in Deut that you make some allusion to.... I'm not going to continue this conversation with someone who forces me to spend my own good time to educate myself on what I think you might be saying.

On Numbers 18.... it tells the Levites what to do with the tithe... and it is exactly where I get my information about who much they kept for themselves without sinning. One would need to keep reading to see that though.

If you read Numbers 18:21 and then stop reading then your take is what they will get from the reading. If one were to simply keep reading they would see that Numbers 18:21 is simply the beginning of the instruction and is letting them know that the tithe has been put in their charge. Further down they are told what portion they may count as their own without sin.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Concerning the chapters in Deut that you make some allusion to.... I'm not going to continue this conversation with someone who forces me to spend my own good time to educate myself on what I think you might be saying.

On Numbers 18.... it tells the Levites what to do with the tithe... and it is exactly where I get my information about who much they kept for themselves without sinning. One would need to keep reading to see that though.

If you read Numbers 18:21 and then stop reading then your take is what they will get from the reading. If one were to simply keep reading they would see that Numbers 18:21 is simply the beginning of the instruction and is letting them know that the tithe has been put in their charge. Further down they are told what portion they may count as their own without sin.

I was just inviting you to read the references in Deut. 12 & 14 I think they are self explanatory then read Num. 18. It was this tithe that Nehemiah restored and threw Tobiah out of the chamber because the priest were forced to work in the field instead of serving in the temple. I am not talking down to you.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I was just inviting you to read the references in Deut. 12 & 14 I think they are self explanatory then read Num. 18. It was this tithe that Nehemiah restored and threw Tobiah out of the chamber because the priest were forced to work in the field instead of serving in the temple. I am not talking down to you.

Do you not see where Numbers 18 goes beyond the 21st verse and tells the Levites to take a heave offering to keep for their own and to take another heave offering for the priests?

The Priests were forcing the Levites to work in the field instead of serving in the temple. The priests had departed from the law of God, among other ways, by handling the tithe themselves rather than the Levites giving them their heave offering of the tithes... they (the priests) were not bringing it into the storehouse because they (Eliashib) had Tobian (an Ammonite) living in the storehouse where the tithes were supposed to be stored.

So the Levites were out working in the fields and people were making merchandise on the sabbath.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Do you not see where Numbers 18 goes beyond the 21st verse and tells the Levites to take a heave offering to keep for their own and to take another heave offering for the priests?

The Priests were forcing the Levites to work in the field instead of serving in the temple. The priests had departed from the law of God, among other ways, by handling the tithe themselves rather than the Levites giving them their heave offering of the tithes... they (the priests) were not bringing it into the storehouse because they (Eliashib) had Tobian (an Ammonite) living in the storehouse where the tithes were supposed to be stored.

So the Levites were out working in the fields and people were making merchandise on the sabbath.

No fuss here the heave offering is the tithe of the tithe given to the priests.
Yes the priest's were doing wrong Eliashib I agree again. But Nehemiah placed the levites back in control.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

What are you talking about that I was incorrect on?

ALL the tithe was given to the Levites...

Then 10% of that was to be counted as their own.
Another 10% was to be counted as the priests.

But... please provide scripture for what you are saying here and I will be glad to see what it is that I am missing.

I think you are confusing the 10% the Levites gave to the Aaronic priesthood with what they lived on, but I might be wrong. I know back when I studied the tithes out I don't think I ran across anything saying they kept 10% for themselves.

[COOPER]

Money........makes people act strange.

Even the church.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by COOPER

Money........makes people act strange.

Even the church.

Coop I notice under name you state this

Tithing is not a NT law it is like the Sabbath or something similiar.
I would like to show you the difference.
Jesus never told anyone to keep the Sabbath he healed on the Sabbath. He told folks to tithe. Mt.23:23
Paul addresses the Sabbath keeping and it's fulfillment. Col.2:16-18, Heb.4, Rom. 14. Paul never said tithing was fulfilled but allluded to it. 1Cor. 9, Heb 7.
There is no record where anyone kept the Sabbath from Adam to Exo. 16 which was 15 days before the giving of the Law concerning gathering the manna. Tithing is seen in type in the garden the tree reserved, Abel and the firstling of the flock, then in actual practice 430 years before the law in Abraham in Gen.14 and in Jacob.
What did tithing TYPE that it was fulfilled??????????????????????????????
What about instrumental music??????????????????

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Coop I notice under name you state this


What about instrumental music??????????????????

Tithes are not required......period.

I know this as well as others on this forum.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Rico View Post
Coop, I've said it before and will say it again: tithing is an excellent principle and a practice God will honor, as He has done in the past. When He walked this earth, Jesus fulfilled ALL of the law. That means he tithed, just like everyone else. Why would He need to reteach an already established practice? People like you aren't interested in the truth, in my opinion. All you are interested in is tearing down as much of God's church as you can, and that is why you start these kinds of threads.

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Did he stone anyone to death for adultery? (as specified in the law)

Was this ever answered by Bro. Epley or Rico? I think they were the ones saying Jesus fufilled the law fully.