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Old 09-25-2007, 04:38 PM
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Yes, our people are very discerning with what they do on the internet. Many don't have the internet at all. Those that do all have internet filters. Like myself our internet activity is monitered by an outside source. We use a reporting filter on our internet that sends an email to a predetermined person showing all the internet usuage and content that we look at. This may seem extreme but it is a way for me to assure accountablity to my wife and my ministry.
You can do the same with TV. See you don't have to force people to not own TVs or not be allowed to advertise on TV. Advertisement on the Internet is somehow not seen as approval of ALL Internet yet somehow advertisement on TV ends up being equated with approving of ALL TV...that does not make sense
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:39 PM
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Ultra Con,
I have a question for you....
Please be honest..
How big is your church?
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:43 PM
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I feel that the UPC dropped the ball on video, it should have not allowed video in at all. Those men that were against video were right because it has become the slippery slope. If you will define "wordly amusements" then i'll most likely say we preach against it. I'm against organized sports altogether. I don't think apostolics should play or participate in organized sporting events. To the TV issue I say this: when does it stop? I have to make my mind up and say at some point it's too much and I have to leave. For me, TV is that issue. It's no different than the others but it is a position that I refuse to go into. There are lot's of things that I disapprove of in the UPC but TV is the issue that I set as a boundry and said, "if they cross this then i'm out".
You say this on the internet............

Do you not see the irony here? Honestly.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:44 PM
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Show me that in the Bible. My pastor submits to his pastor. We then have a Board of Elders. He does NOT submit to the presbyter, this is NOT biblical authority. The UPC is NOT the CHURCH!
I would like your pastor to come on here and admit this. I don't think you should be speaking for him.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:02 PM
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Ultra Con,
I have a question for you....
Please be honest..
How big is your church?
I'll bump it too for UC...got me wondering...
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:02 PM
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Ultra Con,
I have a question for you....
Please be honest..
How big is your church?
Why should this matter? You must think I go to a dead dried up old fashioned church.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:04 PM
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Why should this matter? You must think I go to a dead dried up old fashioned church.
I don't...I'm just wondering how many people there are that you know for a FACT don't watch TV and do control the internet in your church...

Most UCs I know may not own a tv...but they watch it at grandma's and the hotel room....
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:05 PM
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I would like your pastor to come on here and admit this. I don't think you should be speaking for him.
My Pastor doesn't get on here much. We are very close and I know for a fact that he submits to a pastor not an org.
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I don't...I'm just wondering how many people there are that you know for a FACT don't watch TV and do control the internet in your church...

Most UCs I know may not own a tv...but they watch it at grandma's and the hotel room....
Then they aren't UC's
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:06 PM
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Then they aren't UC's
Maybe you're not...what's it hurt to say how big the church is? Got something to hide?
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