I would be interested in knowing the actual numbers as to how many churches are disaffiliating. Is it really that many, as CB has alluded to in the first post??
I would be interested in knowing the actual numbers as to how many churches are disaffiliating. Is it really that many, as CB has alluded to in the first post??
I would not be surprised at large numbers disaffiliating. Remember though, this does not mean these will all leave - or that cards will in fact be turned in. It does leave a few more options open though when the church and pastor are in agreement.
I would dare say the HQ attorneys are working overtime with questions and legal concerns about now.
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I would be interested in knowing the actual numbers as to how many churches are disaffiliating. Is it really that many, as CB has alluded to in the first post??
I heard the $25 cover charge at GC was not enough and the drop in booksales left PPH with a deficit.
Seems Spanish Literature is no mas.
I have heard of a price increase for the books no one is now buying. Makes a great business model. You are not selling, so you raise prices.......
And my Pentecostal Herald is 3 months late every issue.
Is it me being tired or am I missing something fundamental with this math?
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I would not be surprised at large numbers disaffiliating. Remember though, this does not mean these will all leave - or that cards will in fact be turned in. It does leave a few more options open though when the church and pastor are in agreement.
I would dare say the HQ attorneys are working overtime with questions and legal concerns about now.
I agree, but do feel a lot of those are taking precautionary measures to insure their local flock will not be found out in the cold. It is all supposition on our part at present. I think time will tell the tale of the toll this "yes" vote will cost. I believe the org is forever changed because of it. And I still think it was the best thing that could happen in the long run, as it frees men to follow their convictions, and move forward instead of always being in gridlock with the opposing side.
Maybe churches are disaffiliating as a precautionary measure, just in case things get out of hand and the pastor feels the need to leave the organization in the future. Disaffiliating does not necessarily mean the pastor is turning his card in.
It is a reflection of distrust in the direction of the org.
CS, I have been away for a few days and offline. As I have neither time nor inclination for treading through threads for info, how widespread is this?!
On Thursday when I last read, it seemed that a lot was rumor...is it now fact?!
CS, I have been away for a few days and offline. As I have neither time nor inclination for treading through threads for info, how widespread is this?!
On Thursday when I last read, it seemed that a lot was rumor...is it now fact?!
Sister, it is very widespread, far more than most thought it would be.
This was quite a thing...for the first time, the UPC totally reversed a stand on separation.
This has caused a LOT of men to lose trust in the organization. It isn'tonly the issue--it is the willingness of the majority to remove a landmark. When you've done it once, it's easier to do it again.
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