No it does not necessarily do that. YOU do that. That is YOUR own volition. It is not the logical conclusion that if one thing is wrong ALL other things should be suspect.
I also think it is faulty to have to wait until someone decides one thing could be wrong before examining if the rest are wrong. We should all always be examining what we believe all the time, not just Oneness Pentecostals that left standards
If you bought a dozen eggs, and one of those dozen turned out to be positive for salmonella, would you assume the rest of the eggs were perfectly fine?
If you bought a dozen eggs, and one of those dozen turned out to be positive for salmonella, would you assume the rest of the eggs were perfectly fine?
I don't know, Prax. I tend to think that Mich's reaction is a pretty typical one. When your whole doctrinal foundation starts to crumble, you have to go back to Scripture for yourself and search out EVERYTHING to find out what is truth.
The thing is is that from the very get go you should be searching out scripture for yourself no relying on what man alone is saying. My previous pastor always would preach and tell you to study it/the scriptures for yourself and not just go off of what he said. I'm very up front with people on what is salvational and what isn't.
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If you bought a dozen eggs, and one of those dozen turned out to be positive for salmonella, would you assume the rest of the eggs were perfectly fine?
Thank God we aren't eggs!!!
Sorry, I had to.
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Where The Grace Of God Will Not Protect You
My pastor has said that "It is not what you know but what you believe" I still and will always believe that the baptism in Jesus name and knowing that Jesus is God is fundamental to salvation.
E.g., I don't know that God is three persons, but I believe it. Something like that? (Not saying that's what I believe. Just picking an example to make a point!)
Seriously, what does your pastor really mean by this statement? Are things we believe (just on faith, without actually knowing them to be true) really more important than things we know for sure?
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The thing is is that from the very get go you should be searching out scripture for yourself no relying on what man alone is saying. My previous pastor always would preach and tell you to study it/the scriptures for yourself and not just go off of what he said. I'm very up front with people on what is salvational and what isn't.
Did that. Got it "wrong". (According to Apostolics.)
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I don't know, Prax. I tend to think that Mich's reaction is a pretty typical one. When your whole doctrinal foundation starts to crumble, you have to go back to Scripture for yourself and search out EVERYTHING to find out what is truth.
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The thing is is that from the very get go you should be searching out scripture for yourself no relying on what man alone is saying. My previous pastor always would preach and tell you to study it/the scriptures for yourself and not just go off of what he said. I'm very up front with people on what is salvational and what isn't.
Yes, you should be. But you know what happens, when you are new to the whole religion thing? You trust the people who are teaching you, because you see that the are right about some things, like God being real, and the Holy Ghost.
And so, when they tell you, this verse right here, means such-n-such, you believe them, because they have been right so far. Plus, they know so much about God and the Bible, that when they give you a Bible study, and show you many verses AND tell you exactly what those verses mean, you begin to develop a filter. From the very beginning you have been taught that a certain verse means a certain thing, it becomes very difficult to ever see it a different way.
Which is probably why Trinitarians and oneness people use the same verses to prove 2 opposite things.
First ,I want to clarify this thread and say, I am NOT saying the Apostolic Doctrine is wrong.
This is something I have heard in the past 10 years from preachers who have left the UPC.
Some are shakey on the Doctrine, they say if the UPC was wrong in area's like outward appearance and other man made beliefs, this is cause for us to take another look at the Doctrine.
I know many when they leave say " We are like the UPC in doctrine but that other legalistic stuff we have done away with."
By saying this it really helps dealing with family still in the UPC.
I think when one starts to question one thing at least in my case, it causes you to look at other things too, but I think questioning is a good thing, it causes one to get into the bible and get answers for oneself and not just accept what you are told
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John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
I don't know, Prax. I tend to think that Mich's reaction is a pretty typical one. When your whole doctrinal foundation starts to crumble, you have to go back to Scripture for yourself and search out EVERYTHING to find out what is truth.
Sherri, you are so right here. I can tell you that this is what I have had to do with the ground falling out from under me. I searched the scripture the whole time but chose to see the scriptures through the glasses of my what someone is telling me.
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Jack Shephard.
I think when one starts to question one thing at least in my case, it causes you to look at other things too, but I think questioning is a good thing, it causes one to get into the bible and get answers for oneself and not just accept what you are told
Information is good and powerful. The information age is revolutionizing the church. Through the use of forums such as this, one can ask questions and get a variety of opinions.
Before, you basically had one source of opinion and that was your leader or pastor. Your faith was in the hands of one person's opinion.
When one researches a subject thoroughly, sometimes their views may change. Information is a good thing!
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