Where are all the Acts 2:38 folks (3-steppers)??

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

OK, I was lurking for a moment before I needed to start getting ready, but when I said this, I logged back on and decided to throw this in.

Bro. Epley, that was so far below the belt, it was not funny. You know better than to do this, my dear brother. This is just uncalled for.

I would answer him but then we would have to put the views of his father on the stand.

[Brother Price]

Don't brother. That was...too much! I am so shocked by that.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

You would have a point in Acts 10 if verse 48 was not included. They were IMMEDIATELY commanded to be baptized in Jesus Name. That is why the term 3-stepper is absurd God fills with the Holy Ghost he has the priority to do it as He sees fit however He did not exclude them from obeying the gospel. You have NO point whatsoever. There is NO smoking gun your gun has NO bullets it is shooting blanks. Verse 48 is the smoking gun for you faith only folks. He COMMANDED them to be baptized in the Name. Thus repentance, baptism, HGB were all included in Acts 10 not excluded.

You've missed it ... Elder ... no one is not advocating that a believer not be baptized ... yet if we reconcile Romans 8 to the indwelling of Christ's Spirit in Cornelius ... prior to being baptized in verse 48 then your soteriological theology is fatally flawed.

Believers are baptized ... not an option. Yet, are we regenerated before or because ... has always be the real issue here.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

OK, I was lurking for a moment before I needed to start getting ready, but when I said this, I logged back on and decided to throw this in.

Bro. Epley, that was so far below the belt, it was not funny. You know better than to do this, my dear brother. This is just uncalled for.

No Bro. Price that is NOT below the belt Dan's father preached Acts 2:38 as salvation so if I am a Papist then his father was a Papist. My father believes somewhat like Dan I am not offended if someone calls him a Baptist. I did not mean offense I am appealing to Dan's reasoning above his prejudice against truth.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

It works when we all do our part ... look around we've all got mud on our face.

And you have done nothing but enflame the situation. You have been the catalyst for all of this angst. Others are only responding to what you have thrown out.

What is most remarkable is how successful you have commandeered the drirection of conversation here.

We are now told that we can not label false doctrine when we see it. We are now told that we must be tolerant of this aberrant view of salvation.

All the while hundreds of posters a day, some of them completely new to the world of Pentecost are reading that all they need to do to be saved is believe. Everything else is optional.

In short Daniel, you have succeeded here. Your view is now the accepted and most prominent one - simply because others won't respond to your bombastic insults any longer.

So, as you and your friend Jeff often say "this is your house."

Enjoy it.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

Don't brother. That was...too much! I am so shocked by that.

Why would that shock you??????????????????

Quote my father it won't offend me!!!!!!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

You've missed it ... Elder ... no one is not advocating the a believer not be baptized ... yet if we reconcile Romans 8 to the indwelling of Christ's Spirit in Cornelius ... prior to being baptized in verse 48 then your soteriological theology is fatally flawed.

Believers are baptized ... not an option. Yet, are we regenerated before or because ... has always be the real issue here.

Your veiw on regeneration has been hazy at times. Regeneration before or after repentance has always been questionable?????

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

And you have done nothing but enflame the situation. You have been the catalyst for all of this angst. Others are only responding to what you have thrown out.

What is most remarkable is how successful you have commandeered the drirection of conversation here.

We are now told that we can not label false doctrine when we see it. We are now told that we must be tolerant of this aberrant view of salvation.

All the while hundreds of posters a day, some of them completely new to the world of Pentecost are reading that all they need to do to be saved is believe. Everything else is optional.

In short Daniel, you have succeeded here. Your view is now the accepted and most prominent one - simply because others won't respond to your bombastic insults any longer.

So, as you and your friend Jeff often say "this is your house."

Enjoy it.

What?

This is a fatalistic view - - he hasn't won anything!

AND this isn't HIS HOUSE - - why do you insist on saying that over and over again?

This forum is no ONE'S.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

No Bro. Price that is NOT below the belt Dan's father preached Acts 2:38 as salvation so if I am a Papist then he father was a Papist. My father believes somewhat like Dan I am not offended if someone calls him a Baptist. I did not mean offense I am appealing to Dan's reasoning above his prejudice against truth.

I will not enter this debate against anther's father's soteriological views ... or his views on the Godhead ... or make declarations of whose truth puts them in peril of hell fire ...

My reasoning is simple ... we are given facets of truth ... and it's our job to continue to study the Word ...

My father taught salvation as a life stepper ... all about relationship.

He also, towards the end of his life, believed baptism was symbolic of an inward work.

I also have seen a video of him likening baptism to a symbolic work in a wedding over 20 years ago. Thought it was interesting.

[OneAccord]

So, the game is being played here too. Cool.

Oh, I'm beginning to get it now. This is a game. Someone says something, then someone says just the opposite. Some of our neices and nephews play that game. Its called Opposites. Good game to teach kids that everything has an opposite. But, I always thought it was a kids game. Which goes to show we haven't grown very much since Pauls day, because the Corintiian church was playing this same game in 1 Cor. 1. And, the subject was baptism then, too. One would say "I'm of Paul" another would say "I am Cephas". They played Mixed Up, too. "Paul was crucified", "Baptized in the name of Paul". Good games. But.... in that game is question we should ask ourselves....


1Cr 1:13 Is Christ divided? It seems He is....

So, have fun... Ain't got time to play because...


1Cr 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

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