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Old 01-15-2008, 06:20 PM
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:21 PM
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I know more than one individual that when telling NAU that they did not agree with AS were told to sign it anyway and mail it in. Hmmmmm.....


With regard to the 'lie'? Lord knows saints lie all the time and we let them keep coming.

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Well I thought of something funny to say but didn't wanna offend anyone.

P.S. This was the wrong quote. I am sorry PastorD.
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:35 PM
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Go ahead, stir the waters. It's fun to watch those Ultra Con UPCites get fired up!
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Of course, if men would have been preaching, teaching the doctrines of, and supporting the AoF (as they signed their name in agreement to join be apart of an organization) in the first place, the AS wouldn't have been needed.

If you don't believe in an organization's mission, why are you a part of that organization? Is it that easy to close your eyes when you sign your name?
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Minister's in the UPC are required to sign the following statement every two years.

Minister's Affirmation

I ministers name, do hereby declare that I believe and embrace the fundamental Doctrine as stated in

the Articles of faith as set forth in the Manual of the United Pentecostal Church International.

I also believe and embrace the holiness standards of the United Pentecostal Church International as set

forth in said articles of Faith, and I pledge to practice, preach, and teach the same.


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Signature


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He's the question. Would you allow a minister to be your pastor who intentionally lied when he signed it?
Would you vote for a Resolution to introduce this document knowing that people lied to get it passed? When told that this might result in people leaving the fellowship, the man who wrote the resolution said, "Well every movement has to have a bowel movement!" and then chuckled. How can you support this as a Christian document?

Why do you still continue to support this document when one of the ones who "fibbed" during the Business meeting in 1992 came back to the very next General Conference and apologized in tears? He's a great man and just look at the depths to which this resolution dragged him down to.

You must know the history behind this? Why do you support something that was founded on deception and deceit? Knowing the lies behind this document why aren't you blushing when you ask about the alleged "lies" of others?
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I remember Bro. Jesse Williams (AGS) saying one time that when Satan fell he fell into a choir loft. I always wondered why he said that.
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Would you vote for a Resolution to introduce this document knowing that people lied to get it passed? When told that this might result in people leaving the fellowship, the man who wrote the resolution said, "Well every movement has to have a bowel movement!" and then chuckled. How can you support this as a Christian document?

Why do you still continue to support this document when one of the ones who "fibbed" during the Business meeting in 1992 came back to the very next General Conference and apologized in tears? He's a great man and just look at the depths to which this resolution dragged him down to.

You must know the history behind this? Why do you support something that was founded on deception and deceit? Knowing the lies behind this document why aren't you blushing when you ask about the alleged "lies" of others?
Fibbed?

What was the "fib?"
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