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01-21-2008, 11:48 AM
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The miracle is speaking in tongues period, because that happens everywhere. It's much more a rarity if anybody were to hear tongues in their own language. All the Biblical references focus on the speaking being the point, not the hearing.
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We're not talking about speaking in tongues in general. We're discussing aspects of speaking in tongues in relation to translation vs. interpretation and glossolalia vs. xenoglossy.
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01-21-2008, 11:49 AM
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pelathais, here's the science article,
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1030183100.htm
They established that the areas of the brain active in speaking and singing were not as active in subjects speaking in tongues...the conclusion...the subjects aren't the one's speaking. 
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Thanks. What happened to you? We never agreed before.
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01-21-2008, 11:55 AM
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LOL
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01-21-2008, 11:59 AM
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I mean this with all humility...those who haven't operated on this plane in the Spirit may have difficulty understanding this concept.
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Bro. Hall ......
Could you please explain this please?
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01-21-2008, 12:02 PM
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now there's some amongst us that don't believe you have to speak in tongues to get the holy ghost but I wont say any names
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01-21-2008, 12:05 PM
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I've known of people who have spoken in tongues that someone who was present in the meeting recognized it as their own language.
I also know of a Chinese girl who my husband prayed through in Malaysia who spoke in a Chinese dialect unknown to her but known to one of the other young women attending the meeting. She wrote down what the girl who had just received the Holy Ghost was speaking and translated it into English.
It was a synopsis of the messages my husband had been speaking all week during revival meetings. That was pretty amazing!
I agree with Seth. Speaking in tongues is a miracle! It's awesome! It's powerful and it can be very effective!! It's the initial sign of Holy Ghost baptism!
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01-21-2008, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall
We're not talking about speaking in tongues in general. We're discussing aspects of speaking in tongues in relation to translation vs. interpretation and glossolalia vs. xenoglossy.
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Well if you're talking about all that go ahead....
lol
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01-21-2008, 01:18 PM
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It's also important to note that when people speak in tongues and are heard speaking in foreign language, most often everyone present hears them in their native tongue no matter what it is. For example a man may speak in tongues in a crowd that has people that speak English, French, Portuguese, Swahili, and Congolese....and all of them will understand him in their native tongue. But if the man were recorded he would only be heard speaking unintelligibly. In this fashion "tongues" often break the language barriers that are present such as at Pentecost.
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I'm not saying it can't happen that way, but you make it sound like it generally does happen that way, as a rule. I don't believe we can say it does (as a rule), although I'm sure the Lord can certainly allow it to happen that way as he sees fit.
I don't know if there's enough there for us to teach this as being a biblically-based fact. The evidence for this seems to be mostly anecdotal.
In the end, Its not a life or death issue anyway. Interesting to know, but not necessarily critical.
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01-21-2008, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark
now there's some amongst us that don't believe you have to speak in tongues to get the holy ghost but I wont say any names
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Answering the original question, Imo... I wouldn't judge people. Let that be between them and God....If it is not directly affecting you, I'd leave it alone.
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01-21-2008, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
I had some "charismatic" guys try to coax me into speaking in tongues once when I was a kid. It ended up going no where. When I finally did receive the Holy Ghost (it was "finally" for me, but ocurred after my first visit to a UPC church) the "speaking in tongues" came like a wave that washed over me. It was great.
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I'm an Assembly of God member and I'm sad to say this is becoming very common in our churches. Some offer "courses" on speaking in tongues while others will have an instructor "teach" you how to speak in tongues.
Thank God for the true, Baptism of the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues, that doesn't require any coaxing, instructing, or learning.
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