Question about tongues

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

I must say I'm not so sure about this.

Originally Posted by chseeads

Yeah, me neither. I don't think that's the case.

I usually quarrel with ChristopherHall, so it is with some disappointment that I find myself in agreement with him here.

I think he has introduced a surprisingly sophisticated approach to the "speaking in tongues" phenomena.

Originally Posted by pelathais

I usually quarrel with ChristopherHall, so it is with some disappointment that I find myself in agreement with him here.

I think he has introduced a surprisingly sophisticated approach to the "speaking in tongues" phenomena.

I was going to point out that many might be surprised at Heaven's dictionary definition of each word in this expression of the gift of tongues... "Ma lalala lo key mo la la la la la la"... especially the variant meanings for the word "LA"

[ChristopherHall]

There was a case with independent Apostolics in Africa in which a minister spoke in tongues during an altar call. Suddenly the crowd began coming forward by the dozens to pray through at the altar. After the meeting there were many discussions about what had happened...those attending all heard him praying for them and calling them forward...in their native tongue. Those who spoke French...heard French. Those that spoke Portugueses heard Portuguese. Think about Pentecost. Do you think the languages present were evenly divided among the 120 or do you think all men heard the 120 in the language wherein they were born?

[Arphaxad]

Originally Posted by chseeads

Yeah, me neither. I don't think that's the case.

I do, in Acts 2 it says that "everyone heard them speak in his own language"v6 and "how is it that we hear, each in our own language"v8and"we hear them speaking in our own tongues''v11. than v13 says-Others mocking said" They are full of new wine". Can it be that the apostles were speaking in tongues and those that were meant to understand heard them in thier own languages, but the mockers didn't and thought that they were drunk and babling some unintelligable sounds?
and in ch 10:46"For they heard them speak in tongues and magnify God."
How did they know that thay magnifying God unless some that went with Peter heard them in theur own language.

just a couple things to ponder on................



ARPH

[ChristopherHall]

"5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. " - Acts 2:5-13

Notice the crowd heard every man in the tongue wherein they were born. These languages groups weren't divided among the Apostles one 17 speaking one language and another 17 another. These were just "tongues" and all men understood them regardless of their own original language.

In this way a 7 year old girl can be used in this fashion to speak to a crowd speaking 20 different languages if God so desired.

This is a miracle...it's not a person merely speaking a human language

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

I do, in Acts 2 it says that "everyone heard them speak in his own language"v6 and "how is it that we hear, each in our own language"v8and"we hear them speaking in our own tongues''v11. than v13 says-Others mocking said" They are full of new wine". Can it be that the apostles were speaking in tongues and those that were meant to understand heard them in thier own languages, but the mockers didn't and thought that they were drunk and babling some unintelligable sounds?
and in ch 10:46"For they heard them speak in tongues and magnify God."
How did they know that thay magnifying God unless some that went with Peter heard them in theur own language.

just a couple things to ponder on................



ARPH

BINGO! You just got a revelation!

[Cindy]

Great posts Bro. Hall.

[ChristopherHall]

I mean this with all humility...those who haven't operated on this plane in the Spirit may have difficulty understanding this concept.

[Felicity]

It's also important to note that when people speak in tongues and are heard speaking in foreign language, most often everyone present hears them in their native tongue no matter what it is. For example a man may speak in tongues in a crowd that has people that speak English, French, Portuguese, Swahili, and Congolese....and all of them will understand him in their native tongue. But if the man were recorded he would only be heard speaking unintelligibly. In this fashion "tongues" often break the language barriers that are present such as at Pentecost.

I don't agree with this. Not that it matters that much probably. Just want to go on record saying so is all.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I mean this with all humility...those who haven't operated on this plane in the Spirit may have difficulty understanding this concept.

What do you mean "those who haven't operated on this plane in the Spirit"?

What plane are you speaking of, realizing of course that it isn't Air Canada, West Jet, Southwest or Delta.