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Old 01-31-2008, 09:37 AM
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Re: Terrible News and the Importance of Accountabi

Even when accountability is in place, it doesn't often really work. Speaking only from my experience in the AoG, and it may be different elsewhere, of course. The section/district leaders are just part of the good ole boys, and stand behind the pastor, almost no matter what.

Is it different in the UPCI?
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Proverbs 11:13 A talebearer revealeth secrets: but he that is of a faithful spirit concealeth the matter.

Secrets - a session, that is, company of persons (in close deliberation);

Proverbs 11:14 Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counselors there is safety.

Counselers - to advise; reflexively to deliberate or resolve: - advertise, take advice, advise (well), consult, (give take) counsel (-lor), determine, devise, guide, purpose.

Safety - rescue.
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Re: Terrible News and the Importance of Accountabi

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Does true love reveal a matter?
No, it does not, unless of course they are under constraits by the justice system. In that case, love is not the question...time in jail would be the question.
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Re: Terrible News and the Importance of Accountabi

I don't see the "accountability" thing working very well in actuality. It sounds good but will be only as successful as a person is able to be completely honest and transparent with their accountability partner.

What about accountability with God? He sees and knows all anyhow. Nothing is hidden to Him.
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No, it does not, unless of course they are under constraits by the justice system. In that case, love is not the question...time in jail would be the question.
True, but I wasn't speaking of a judicial matter.

There have been many occasions where I have restrained handing in a prayer request for fear the matter will be told. Thank God for the "Unspoken request."
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"He who is trustworthy in spirit keeps a thing covered."

"A prudent man keeps his knowledge to himself but the heart of fools blurts out folly."

That's what Solomon said.
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True, but I wasn't speaking of a judicial matter.

There have been many occasions where I have restrained handing in a prayer request for fear the matter will be told. Thank God for the "Unspoken request."
The fact that we even need "unspoken requests" is indicative of our [legitimate] lack of trust for one another.
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I know of no person that I would reveal all my heart to. Nobody. Much to the frustration of some.

I spill everything out to God. He's my only accountability partner. He knows and sees what nobody else does ---- and understands.
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I know of no person that I would reveal all my heart to. Nobody. Much to the frustration of many.

I spill everything out to God. He's my only accountability partner. He knows and sees what nobody else does and understands.
I agree to a point...but when there are times when I need to unload and I am thankful I have a few friends I could trust to talk to when I am in need...

the interesting thing is for the most part in dealing with folks we all have the same battles just on different fields many times....
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I know of no person that I would reveal all my heart to. Nobody. Much to the frustration of many.

I spill everything out to God. He's my only accountability partner. He knows and sees what nobody else does and understands.
You are absolutely right, Felicity. And really, you will normally only have one or two very good friends, in your life, that you could actually trust with your heart.
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