JEWS! - Page 8

ManOfWord · #71 02-02-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry

You seem to be presuming that that I have done away with all scripture. I have not. I am saying that there is no law in the whole Bible that any of us can keep in our own ability. Even the royal law of love. Love your neighbor as your self. Love God with all your soul, mind , and strength. None of us can do that in our own ability. It has to be the Spirit of Christ living thru us. Then it is Jesus who gets the glory, not us.

Actually, I did not presume that. It just appeared to me that you were placing HG leading in a position over the word of God. I have seen a lot of people do that over the years and the results are always disastrous.

I certainly need the Lord to help me keep any His laws and don't have the capacity to do so on my own. I agree with you on that 100%!

Falla39 · #72 02-02-2008, 08:42 PM

Big-Larry,

Not to high-jack the thread, but that's quiet a truck you have there! About

a 49 or 50 model Chevrolet! Sharp looking from when I last saw it!!

Falla39

Revelationist · #73 02-02-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Understood. But since Jews believe in the same Jehovah God we do, and they believe in the Old Testament... at least thats some good common ground to start with.

If they believed the Old Testament, they would be Christians....

Rev · #74 02-02-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Revelationist

If they believed the Old Testament, they would be Christians....

I think you better qualify that statement! Because it can't stand on it's own!

Revelationist · #75 02-02-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev

I think you better qualify that statement! Because it can't stand on it's own!

Sure... he Old Testament fortold of the coming messiah, but they didn't believe it. They rejected Christ. Had they believed the Prophets, they would have come to Jesus and would have become Christians... because they didn't believe what the Old Testament said, they remain Old Covenant Jews. No one was saved under the Old Testament.

Falla39 · #76 02-02-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev

I think you better qualify that statement! Because it can't stand on it's own!

Bro. Rev,

Could you elaborate a bit more on the bolded! If they that are

Christ's are Abraham's seed according to the promise, looks like

it woud stand on it's own pretty good!

Blessings,

Falla39

Rev · #77 02-02-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Revelationist

Sure... he Old Testament fortold of the coming messiah, but they didn't believe it. They rejected Christ. Had they believed the Prophets, they would have come to Jesus and would have become Christians... because they didn't believe what the Old Testament said, they remain Old Covenant Jews. No one was saved under the Old Testament.

"The Old Testament fortold of the coming messiah, but they didn't believe it"

They believed in the coming Messiah, but they didn't recognize Jesus as being the fulfillment of the scriptures for sure.

Rev · #78 02-02-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

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Bro. Rev,

Could you elaborate a bit more on the bolded! If they that are

Christ's are Abraham's seed according to the promise, looks like

it woud stand on it's own pretty good!

Blessings,

Falla39

Baptism in Jesus name wasn't revealed until (Acts 2:38). How could you be a christian before that?

Revelationist · #79 02-02-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev

"The Old Testament fortold of the coming messiah, but they didn't believe it"

They believed in the coming Messiah, but they didn't recognize Jesus as being the fulfillment of the scriptures for sure.

And this is why they got mad at Jesus, he was plain about who he was... and they still rejected him. In rejecting Christ, they also rejected the Old Testament.

Rev · #80 02-02-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Revelationist

If they believed the Old Testament, they would be Christians....

This is what you said. What you said could be misunderstood as saying that the N.T. was not necessary to become a christian.

On this site you better say it and make it plain or they will be all over you.