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Old 03-21-2008, 02:38 PM
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Ah....West Virginia. 1 million people, 15 last names......


I'm sure you both are blood related!!! LOL!

BTW, you might be related to me too. My mom's parents are both from WV but in the southern parts.

Really? Where, I've probably been there. I had a Great Uncle that lived near no mans land WV, deep in the mountains. He raised "turkens"-- funniest looking half chicken/half turkey creatures I ever tasted!
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My father was an Aviation Fuels man. He Ran the fuel farm on Futima 1974-78
I had friends stationed on futemna. I was stationed on kinser-- was that base there when you were there?

It was the next Jarhead base, two miles south of your Dad's base.
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Yes! We were on vacation driving through Ontario on back country roads. We were talking and I wasn't paying attention and had no clue I was driving so fast until I saw the flashing lights coming up behind me.

I thought, "Oh no! I'm gonna get nailed for this and the fine will be huge!"

I don't know what in the world prevented me from getting dinged really good that day.

I've only ever gotten one ticket all the years I've been driving and that was by a white policeman when I was driving in the city going just a little bit over the speed limit.

I like to drive fast but I drive 'intuitively'. It works for me. It's like I've got an internal radar system. LOL.

I've been treated more rudely by WHITE people than I ever have by a person of another colour or race.
Hey, you spelled colour wrong, it's c-o-l-o-r LOL! j/k...;-)
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:48 PM
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YOUR people? Chris, you continue to divide us. I have to wonder why. Do you not consider the blacks to be YOUR people? Yet you accuse others here of keeping the divide going. YOU are the only one doing that here.

I bet it never occurred to you that white people were also just as outraged to find out that this happened. I can tell you that I wasn't too happy when I found out about it. Do you know who 'uncovered' that story, Chris? Would it surprise you to know that it was a white person who brought it to the media???

And you continue beating these rabbit trails that have nothing to do with the issue everyone else is speaking of.
See...you missed the entire point. In your mind it's over and done with. Something in the past, something even a white person reported. In many of their minds it was an unjustifiable crime on par with Nazi experiments conducted against the Jews. Again...if it were your/our people...most of us would think differently too.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:02 PM
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Dude, the civil rights movement was 40 years ago!!!! Let's move on!!!
Again I think you're showing your failure to understand....the civil rights movement is still alive and well. They've made a lot of progress but they are still there to speak out against issues faced even today. They also serve as watchdogs and whistle blowers. Advocating for and preserving civil liberties is a job that never ends...because there will always be powers that be that will encroach on those civil liberties while looking out for their own interests.

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I know people who went through concentration camps, but if the still speak about those experiences today as if they were still going through them, I'd have to question their mentality!
Doubt it. My wife's family is half Jewish. The ones I knew who were familiar with the concentration camps were Irvine & Ruth Lieberman. Irv had served in the U.S. Army in WWII and was part of the forces that liberated Dachau while Ruth was actually in a camp for a couple weeks and had the tattoo to prove it (they didn't meet until years later). Irv could tell his story with such vivid imagery. Ruth was always real quite though when anyone brought it up. Now Irv still used the terms "Japs", "krauts", and "Nazi b**tards". He could still get pretty emotional about it.

Coming from having married into a family that was half Jewish I think it's important to note...the Germans were defeated and signed terms of surrender. There were also a number of trials after the war convicting German officers of war crimes. The entire world celebrated and there were parades from sea to shining see. That means there was so closure. When it comes to what African American's faced it's more like a muffled, "Sorry about that. NOW, let's get back to business...."

There's a big difference.
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Chris, there is a lot that many blacks can do to help their situation, but they make a bad situation worse with their own bad decisions. It's hard to "help" an individual like that.
Amen. That's where I think the Gospel comes in. The power of the Holy Ghost can pick a man up and make something out of him.
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Really? Where, I've probably been there. I had a Great Uncle that lived near no mans land WV, deep in the mountains. He raised "turkens"-- funniest looking half chicken/half turkey creatures I ever tasted!
You know, I wish I knew exactly where from, but I don't. I'm not sure if my mom even knows. I'll have to ask her though.
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quite the conversation guys, i would like to say happy easter, and also just point out one thing, i dont care what you have been thru in your life there is no excuse for saying the garbabe that obamas pastor said, under any circumstances, my honest opinion, that goes for anybody, no matter who they are, dt
Hey, Happy Easter. DT, it has been a good conversation really. Some disagreements but honestly, I think we're closer to agreeing than we think. I think that some of us place a stronger emphasis on some things while others place a stronger emphasis on others. But we're within arms reach of each other on this.
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Doubt it. My wife's family is half Jewish. The ones I knew who were familiar with the concentration camps were Irvine & Ruth Lieberman. Irv had served in the U.S. Army in WWII and was part of the forces that liberated Dachau while Ruth was actually in a camp for a couple weeks and had the tattoo to prove it (they didn't meet until years later). Irv could tell his story with such vivid imagery. Ruth was always real quite though when anyone brought it up. Now Irv still used the terms "Japs", "krauts", and "Nazi b**tards". He could still get pretty emotional about it.

Coming from having married into a family that was half Jewish I think it's important to note...the Germans were defeated and signed terms of surrender. There were also a number of trials after the war convicting German officers of war crimes. The entire world celebrated and there were parades from sea to shining see. That means there was so closure. When it comes to what African American's faced it's more like a muffled, "Sorry about that. NOW, let's get back to business...."

There's a big difference.
Chris, does your wife go on and on about what was done to 'her people'? If not, why not? If so, isn't it about time she move on?
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