Ferd, you need to understand where those people are coming from, dontchaknow???? They have an excuse!!
H1, I know exactly where they come from. I grew up a white kid in the Deep South. I heard with my own ears the racism in my own family.
That is no excuse for not rising about your station in life.
I also lost everything when I was 14. I went from being one of the wealthiest families in my community to being forced to move 380 miles from the place of my birth.
We left a 3800 square foot house and moved into a 900 sq ft. apartment. I lost every friend I knew and a youth group over 100 for a new town with weird people and a new youth group of 6.
My mom had been at home all my life and now, she was at work and at 15 I had to cook dinner, keep the house, and baby sit a 12 year old baby sister who was telling my parents that we moved because they hated her.
I joined the Navy because my parents could not afford to support me. I had no choice but to get out of their way.
Now my parents have recouped much of what was lost, and I have worked my tail off to live a good life.
In 1995 when I got married I made $5,000 that year. While we are far from wealthy, my wife and I have worked hard to provide a good life for our children.
On top of that I am dyslexic and ADHD (diagnosed before they used the term ADHD). I had a double major of History and English in college and a GPA of 3.0
When anyone gives me some junk about how their life prevents them from being successful, or how the government owes them something or starts to whine about how bad their life is and how someone else needs to fix it for them, I get a bit bent.
I believe in helping people. I do not believe in expecting someone else to do for you because your circumstance isn’t perfect.
Sorry for the rant. you can have the soap box back. I know you agree with me, it just needed to be said.
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I was feeling a bit blue today, but then I hopped over here and read your posts, and couldn't help feeling happier knowing that no matter how bad my day is, at least I'm not you! jk
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Renda, honestly the most awesome thing about my story is how normal it is!
Honestly the barriers that have been in my life are no more great, nor any more insurmountable than the ones in millions upon millions of lives of average Americans!
I suspect that if we started looking around at THIS forum, we would find that most everyone here has a story that is equal to or even more difficult than than my own.
more than anything, I understand just how typical my story really is, and that is the really frustrating thing about seeing so many making excuses for their life's failures.
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you disagree? well there is a first class shocker! LOL!
PS the following isnt possible
espousing policies that relieve the poor and the working class and favor greater personal liberties
these items are in direct conflict. relieving the poor by fiat, requires restricting the personal liberties of the middle and upper class. period.
I think you’re not considering the details.
First, if the liberal is elected by the electorate they are not ruling by fiat, they are elected and acting by will of the people.
I also don’t think that relieving the poor requires restricting the personal liberties of the middle and upper class. Those who are the wealthiest in society have numerous tax shelters, exploit tax law loopholes, and benefit from overseas investment options that greatly reduce the taxes they pay. For example I know a secretary that works for the owner of a large business here in Dayton. After all was said and done his secretary paid far more in taxes by both dollar amount and percentage than the owner of the company. Some have paid no taxes at all. Liberals often close the tax loopholes, reduce shelters, and restrict the overseas investments that are exploited by the wealthiest in society. This is called making the wealthy pay their fair share. Sadly, the wealthy haven’t budgeted for their fair share and when they have to pay it they feel a crunch. Then the liberal will open more tax shelters, write offs, deductions, etc. to benefit the working and lower classes. This brings the tax burden into balance. The wealthy might only be able to afford two homes instead of three…but the secretary can pay her bills and keep the only home she has. The liberal will also cut the massive pork barrel giveaways and subsidies given to massive corporate entities causing them to also pay their fair share of taxes. More subsidies are granted to the states in block grants to assist with programs that benefit communities suffering from urban blight, the poor, the hungry, charities, those in need of health care, and housing. This lifts the lower classes up. Of course…the wealthy that aren’t used to paying their fair share see this as an injustice.
The majority of people living below the poverty line in the US aren’t bums without jobs. They are the working poor. Initiatives to help them are far more important that tax breaks for individuals that have two or three homes and a different care for each day of the week.
The liberal will also seek to help the small business man by reigning in ever expanding corporate power in the market. Corporations aren’t beneficial to society…entrepreneurs are. We need more people who are able to turn to a trade or some skill to provide a service to the community in which they live. All too often these mom and pop shops find it impossible to compete with the behemoth of corporate chains. Our founding fathers restricted corporations with some pretty tough laws and they encouraged more private and local business pursuits.
Consider the cost of health insurance. Most small businesses can’t afford to provide it. Therefore, they struggle to find good help. Even mid-sized companies are realizing they cannot bare the increasing cost of health insurance. However, the liberal is more likely to favor single payer systems that would be lower in cost, reduce the cost of health care, and relieve businesses of the burden all together. I found it interesting that in Canada articles are being written about how much more competitive their businesses are than ours…because they aren’t burdened with providing health insurance for employees. They articles are aimed at addressing concerns in the market if America gets a universal health insurance system that makes our businesses more competitive. They are afraid we’re going to discover what they’ve discovered and cause them more competition. I talked to an individual who used to attend the church I previously attend. She was a manager for a company that makes scam cards for military weapons systems. Their company moved a major office to Toronto, to cut costs. She explained that this was because they pay less taxes, don’t deal with the expense of covering health care, and the market studies they conducted showed that Canadians are more healthy leading to a more productive workforce. I just sat there dumfounded as she explained it to me.
So the liberal will actually be better for business. The only segment of society that really has anything to fear from a liberal are those in the top 2% who are exploiting tax shelters and tax loopholes and corporate entities benefiting from subsidies, shelters, and loopholes.
Interestingly tax burden is shifted to the working class when corporations and the wealthy get out of paying taxes. As the government generates fewer revenues it provides fewer grants to states. This causes states to increase state level taxes and local governments to pass more levees. Eventually the tax burden is shifted downward and you and I pay more in taxes when all is said and done.
Corporations aren’t moving overseas so much because of taxes in the US. They’re moving because it’s becoming increasingly more difficult to do business here and the cost of providing health insurance is perhaps the greatest expense they have. Relieve them of this and put it in the hands of the individual tax payer to pay for their insurance via a single payer plan and all will contribute and all will benefit….even businesses.
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Renda, honestly the most awesome thing about my story is how normal it is!
Honestly the barriers that have been in my life are no more great, nor any more insurmountable than the ones in millions upon millions of lives of average Americans!
I suspect that if we started looking around at THIS forum, we would find that most everyone here has a story that is equal to or even more difficult than than my own.
more than anything, I understand just how typical my story really is, and that is the really frustrating thing about seeing so many making excuses for their life's failures.
True, but it makes me feel very blessed that my life has been as wonderful as it has.
The frustrating part IS those that do not see that THEY are the ones that can make the difference in their lives.
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H1, I know exactly where they come from. I grew up a white kid in the Deep South. I heard with my own ears the racism in my own family.
That is no excuse for not rising about your station in life.
I also lost everything when I was 14. I went from being one of the wealthiest families in my community to being forced to move 380 miles from the place of my birth.
We left a 3800 square foot house and moved into a 900 sq ft. apartment. I lost every friend I knew and a youth group over 100 for a new town with weird people and a new youth group of 6.
My mom had been at home all my life and now, she was at work and at 15 I had to cook dinner, keep the house, and baby sit a 12 year old baby sister who was telling my parents that we moved because they hated her.
I joined the Navy because my parents could not afford to support me. I had no choice but to get out of their way.
Now my parents have recouped much of what was lost, and I have worked my tail off to live a good life.
In 1995 when I got married I made $5,000 that year. While we are far from wealthy, my wife and I have worked hard to provide a good life for our children.
On top of that I am dyslexic and ADHD (diagnosed before they used the term ADHD). I had a double major of History and English in college and a GPA of 3.0
When anyone gives me some junk about how their life prevents them from being successful, or how the government owes them something or starts to whine about how bad their life is and how someone else needs to fix it for them, I get a bit bent.
I believe in helping people. I do not believe in expecting someone else to do for you because your circumstance isn’t perfect.
Sorry for the rant. you can have the soap box back. I know you agree with me, it just needed to be said.
Ferd, I don't believe in any free rides either. But I do believe the bus should stop for those who can't keep up and jump aboard.
I'm all for welfare reform. Stronger work, education, and training requirements. I'm also in favor of common sense caps on how long benefits can be received.
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