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05-13-2008, 09:06 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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Is there ever really a revolution based on which president is in office? Nah. Let's face it, won't change much of anything...
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That is just what the devil wants you to believe. Apathy is a laodician attitude sir!
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05-13-2008, 09:11 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
Not apathy, just reality. How did your life change when Clinton was in office....?
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05-13-2008, 09:31 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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Not apathy, just reality. How did your life change when Clinton was in office....?
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I don't think you should personalize this...I like the Chinese culture that is aways about the welfare of the whole group and not just one individual.
A better question might be to ask...how or what change did he institute while in office that made American life better?
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05-13-2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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Okay, okay.
But respectfully, that's not what I said. But since we're summing things up...
Let me sum up the video... his middle name is Hussein - must be a terrorist.
We chose Bush for a lot of legitimate reasons, right? Look how that turned out. 
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I never supported the video. But it does seem odd that the two points you made were essentially he is charazmatic (does not mean he will make the right decisions) and he is not white....
What are the good reasons for choosing Obama?
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05-13-2008, 09:47 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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What are the evidences that the dislike for Hillary is that she is a woman? Why not say the dislike for Obama is because he is black? That is absurd, particularly since it's the Democratic party that is voting for him and not her...Repulibans don't like her same reason they don't like any democrat.
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All right, I don't have any statistics, but, it is my opinion that many would not vote for Hillary because she is a woman and many would not vote for Hussein Obama because he is African American.
Although, years ago, a man who was a strong Democrat and Union member, a man I respected as a Christian and who is now dead, said, "I'd vote for a N... if they ran him on the Democrat ticket."
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05-13-2008, 09:50 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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We chose Bush for a lot of legitimate reasons, right? Look how that turned out. 
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I voted for George Bush twice.
After almost 8 years, I still don't think he is a bad president.
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05-13-2008, 09:52 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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Well, I was going to try and stay away from the general election this year; however, I guess I'm going to have to vote for McCain. Not that I want to, but when I consider the alternatives, it appears that I have no choice.
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In my opinion, it is better to vote for McCain than to refuse to vote or to vote for some third party candidate who has no chance of winning.
We may not agree 100 percent with John McCain but we would agree with him much more than we would with Hillary of Hussein.
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05-13-2008, 10:04 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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All right, I don't have any statistics, but, it is my opinion that many would not vote for Hillary because she is a woman and many would not vote for Hussein Obama because he is African American.
Although, years ago, a man who was a strong Democrat and Union member, a man I respected as a Christian and who is now dead, said, "I'd vote for a N... if they ran him on the Democrat ticket."
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That is not evidence, obviously. I see no evidence that the reason "many" don't like her is that she is a woman.
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-13-2008, 10:04 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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I never supported the video. But it does seem odd that the two points you made were essentially he is charazmatic (does not mean he will make the right decisions) and he is not white....
What are the good reasons for choosing Obama?
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Good reasons for voting for him are the same reasons you would vote for any Democrat. If you agree with the Democrats - he's a typical one. Just look on Wikipedia for a thorough analysis of his stances. To go point by point on that wouldn't be much different than it would be for Hillary. You either fall in that category or you don't.
All of those stances being relatively equal, and if you lean to the left, then it may come down to admittedly less important things like communication skills and forthrightness. Those aren't THE reasons, obviously.
Honestly, I don't like anybody all that much. I just like the Republicans a little less. The way the Republicans cater to the Christian Right in order to get the vote just rubs me wrong. I agree with many of the far right issues, but the blending of politics with Christianity is a real turn-off.
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05-13-2008, 10:12 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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That is not evidence, obviously. I see no evidence that the reason "many" don't like her is that she is a woman.
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Well, like I said, I have no proof, evidence, or statistics.
It is my opinion that many do not like her because she is a woman.
I think it's part of being a "gob" (good old boy) the same attitude that has tried to keep women down or "in their place" for years. Maybe some men feel threatened by her.
The attached cartoon is not intended to offend but I think it shows the "gob" mentality.
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