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05-13-2008, 02:24 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
Maybe, but then again, not really.
To me, it's still insulting, and inappropriate.
(Referring to someone as "getting tongue tied" is not an insult... calling a President "near illiterate" is.)
Moreover, it just feeds into the left-wing stereotype that the man is stupid, which he is not.
It's simply incorrect. I remember seeing an interview he did on Fox News once, and he spoke very well, and had a clear command of the issues. I must say it was eye-opening to me, because he showed he was clearly not the dummy the media and the hard-left have portrayed him to be. The Left has just done such a smear campaign against the man for so long (Bush=Hitler, Bush is a moron, etc) and it just irritates me to no end.
I'm not a fan of everything the man has done, but comments the one CH made just grate on me whenever I see them, because to me they represent more of a caricature of the man, than the man himself.
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Just like most leaders that make a decision that is difficult, Bush has paid for making the decision to join the war against terrorism.
There is nothing illiterate about him, only those who would make such a comment.
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05-13-2008, 06:47 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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I think that the dislike of Hillary is the fact she is a woman. ...
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I agree that much of the dislike for Hillary is that she is a woman
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there's enough about her to dislike and distrust which is not associated with her gender, things like:
she would be another "Clinton" in the White House
she is way too liberal
can anyone believe anything she says? (remember her "vast right wing conspiracy explanation? her lies about the missing Whitewater papers?)
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05-13-2008, 06:54 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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... And after Bush's near illiteracy, a man who can speak and has charisma is really appealing...
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I hardly think it's correct to call President Bush "illiterate."
That sounds like something the Hollywood and Media crowd say.
I remember right after George W. Bush's election, some one said something about his not being a smooth speaker and the answer was, "We had 8 years of a smooth speaker." A snake oil salesman or a televangelist or a used car salesman or a con artist might be able to speak and have charisma but there is more to being President than that.
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05-13-2008, 07:22 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
New to the site. Late to this conversation.
Overly dramatic propaganda video, in my opinion. After reading through this thread, I agree with some and disagree with others (obviously), but it's just interesting how polarized we become when we talk about politics. There is no middle ground. Either he is the anti-hrist, or he's brilliant. I wrote an article a few weeks ago about how our opinions as Christians seem to become "packaged" based on our political leanings. Be curious to hear your thoughts:
http://www.halfwritings.com/2008/04/29/advocate/
I personally like Obama's charisma, though I do think he is dangerously liberal on many issues. I'm tired of the Bushes and Clintons, and I hate to be so shallow, but I'm kind of tired of the "good 'ol white boy network" running the country.
I know, I know.... I'm sure I'll get blasted, but what can I say
Not a great way to introduce myself to the group.
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05-13-2008, 07:38 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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I agree that much of the dislike for Hillary is that she is a woman
but,
there's enough about her to dislike and distrust which is not associated with her gender, things like:
she would be another "Clinton" in the White House
she is way too liberal
can anyone believe anything she says? (remember her "vast right wing conspiracy explanation? her lies about the missing Whitewater papers?)
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What are the evidences that the dislike for Hillary is that she is a woman? Why not say the dislike for Obama is because he is black? That is absurd, particularly since it's the Democratic party that is voting for him and not her...Repulibans don't like her same reason they don't like any democrat.
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05-13-2008, 07:39 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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Originally Posted by DerrickS
New to the site. Late to this conversation.
Overly dramatic propaganda video, in my opinion. After reading through this thread, I agree with some and disagree with others (obviously), but it's just interesting how polarized we become when we talk about politics. There is no middle ground. Either he is the anti-hrist, or he's brilliant. I wrote an article a few weeks ago about how our opinions as Christians seem to become "packaged" based on our political leanings. Be curious to hear your thoughts:
http://www.halfwritings.com/2008/04/29/advocate/
I personally like Obama's charisma, though I do think he is dangerously liberal on many issues. I'm tired of the Bushes and Clintons, and I hate to be so shallow, but I'm kind of tired of the "good 'ol white boy network" running the country.
I know, I know.... I'm sure I'll get blasted, but what can I say
Not a great way to introduce myself to the group. 
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Summed up...I like him cuz he is cute and black....that's not a good way to choose a candidate.
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-13-2008, 08:22 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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Summed up...I like him cuz he is cute and black....that's not a good way to choose a candidate.
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Okay, okay.
But respectfully, that's not what I said. But since we're summing things up...
Let me sum up the video... his middle name is Hussein - must be a terrorist.
We chose Bush for a lot of legitimate reasons, right? Look how that turned out.
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05-13-2008, 08:28 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
Well, I was going to try and stay away from the general election this year; however, I guess I'm going to have to vote for McCain. Not that I want to, but when I consider the alternatives, it appears that I have no choice.
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05-13-2008, 08:31 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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Originally Posted by DerrickS
Okay, okay.
But respectfully, that's not what I said. But since we're summing things up...
Let me sum up the video... his middle name is Hussein - must be a terrorist.
We chose Bush for a lot of legitimate reasons, right? Look how that turned out. 
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So, we couldn't do no worse? You've got to be kidding? I am almost inclined to believe that if Obama gets into office, there just might be a revolution.
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05-13-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: Fooled by Barak Hussein Obama
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So, we couldn't do no worse? You've got to be kidding? I am almost inclined to believe that if Obama gets into office, there just might be a revolution.
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Is there ever really a revolution based on which president is in office? Nah. Let's face it, won't change much of anything...
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