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06-16-2008, 09:29 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
Jewelry to me is a ring, bracelet, necklace, brooches, earrings. Timepieces, hair pins and tie tacks no. The only jewelry I wear is my wedding and engagement rings.
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06-16-2008, 09:30 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
I don't consider functional jewelry.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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06-16-2008, 09:50 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Only if you wear it on a chain around you neck.
You can wear it as pin or in your hair though. Never HAVE understood that one.
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functional vs. Ornamental although some carry the
"functional" to the extreme
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06-16-2008, 09:50 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Is it really talking about jewerly or "trappings" as Michael has stated Strong's says?
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Ornaments is also defined as:
śahărôn - a round pendant for the neck: - ornament, round tire like the moon.
‛ekes - a fetter; hence an anklet: - stocks, tinkling ornament.
pe'êr - an embellishment, that is, fancy head dress: - beauty, bonnet, goodly, ornament, tire.
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06-16-2008, 09:50 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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functional vs. Ornamental although some carry the
"functional" to the extreme
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Allowing the wearing of "functional" jewelry and not ornamental jewelry is a tenet of the UPCI, NOT the Bible.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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06-16-2008, 09:52 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Allowing the wearing of "functional" jewelry and not ornamental jewelry is a tenet of the UPCI, NOT the Bible.
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It's a line that was drawn. otherwise we wouldn't allow
gold buttons or belt buckles like the mennonites.
Would you rather it be extreme like that ???
SOme old timers didn't believe in ANY medicine or doctors. all of it
was related to witchcraft & sorcery in the bible. That's the extreme side of it
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06-16-2008, 10:00 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Originally Posted by StMark
It's a line that was drawn. otherwise we wouldn't allow
gold buttons or belt buckles like the mennonites.
Would you rather it be extreme like that ???
SOme old timers didn't believe in ANY medicine or doctors. all of it
was related to witchcraft & sorcery in the bible. That's the extreme side of it
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I don't have a problem with the UPC allowing functional jewelry.  I'm just pointing out that the Bible doesn't make such a distinction. Nor does the Bible forbid the wearing of jewelry, generally speaking.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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06-16-2008, 10:05 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I don't have a problem with the UPC allowing functional jewelry.  I'm just pointing out that the Bible doesn't make such a distinction. Nor does the Bible forbid the wearing of jewelry, generally speaking.
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so body piercing is ok with you ???
since the bible doesn't spell it out word for word ya know.....
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06-16-2008, 10:09 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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so body piercing is ok with you ???
since the bible doesn't spell it out word for word ya know.....
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How do you think the Jewish women wore earrings?
Are you answering my question with a question?
The Bible not only doesn't condemn jewelry, but talks about it in a favorable light on more than a few occasions. I believe in modesty in reference to jewelry, and that is the rule of the day, not scriptural mandates against jewelry--because there aren't any.
As for body piercings...whether they are sinful or not hasn't really come up in our household, since they are decidedly unladylike. No other explanation is needed.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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06-16-2008, 10:16 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
How do you think the Jewish women wore earrings?
Are you answering my question with a question?
The Bible not only doesn't condemn jewelry, but talks about it in a favorable light on more than a few occasions. I believe in modesty in reference to jewelry, and that is the rule of the day, not scriptural mandates against jewelry--because there aren't any.
As for body piercings...whether they are sinful or not hasn't really come up in our household, since they are decidedly unladylike. No other explanation is needed.
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The ears are part of the body too. Ears are no different then the nose
,lip or brow
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