Will I.B. retract if 2 billion don't die soon???

[SDG]

Esther do you believe he should make a retraction of this prediction of it doesn't pan out or refund the money he's made on the CDs and DVDs sold on this premise? Why or why not?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Not once have I said you must do it my way ... but there is a parallel between those who support horoscopic bible doctrine and the magic hair doctrine in the name of not supporting the specifics but the general principle.

Ex:

Many of RR's sycophants don't believe in the angelic protection aspect of her doctrine but because she is for uncut hair they will even buy and sell her books.

Many squirm when IB makes outlandish predictions but because he's a futurist and is talking about endtimes they stand by him ...

Would we do the same if a preacher claimed to be the gift of discernment is a salvific necessary sign for salvation but because they still preached Acts 2:38 it's okay ...

Why is it some in your circles to fellowship divine fleshers anymore ... they preach THE MESSAGE?

Of course ... truth matters ... some of us just want to pick and choose.

Juanita Bynum preaches the Gospel yet she ain't got the the TRUTH.

I'm sorry Dan you are using way off examples.

I am talking about you wanting to kill one of our own who is trying to win the lost!

But you take exception to it because it is not what YOU would do!

I have most of his magazines. I have not read the last several due to time restraints. But tell me the magazine the article and page number of something he said WOULD happen, and not COULD happen and show me where he was wrong!

IB is a man and is giving HIS interpretations as he understands it. He has studied prophecy for over 40 years and has a greater understanding than anyone else I know. Yet, he is a man and can make mistakes, just as you can.

I think folks that are tearing down men's and women's ministries of their own organization could be a pawn of satan. I'm not talking about someone that has fallen into sin. I'm talking about folks that are working for the kingdom.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Esther do you believe he should make a retraction of this prediction of it doesn't pan out or refund the money he's made on the CDs and DVDs sold on this premise? Why or why not?

What date did he give?

[Esther]

Give me an example of what you refer to as "but there is a parallel between those who support horoscopic bible doctrine".

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Esther

What date did he give?

I'll take that as a no ... since no specific time was given but 4 pages written to prove his prediction that the bible shows this will happen within this calendar year.

This hurts the futurist position, IMO, Esther.

Is it too much to ask???

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by JamDat

Thank you Bro. Baxter for having the guts look into the scripture and write your opinion about them, because you've at the very least helped get this soul to be with the Lord throughout eternity.

Even though he is consitently wrong.... : ) Wow...

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I'll take that as a no ... since no specific time was given but 4 pages written to prove his prediction that the bible shows this will happen within this calendar year.

This hurts the futurist position, IMO, Esther.

Is it too much to ask???

Is it too much to ask that you show where he stated a date? No I don't think so. That is what you were asking about wasn't it? That he gave a date that didn't come to pass so he should give refunds?

But even IF he had given dates, do I think he should give refunds? When a pastor prays for you to be healed and you aren't should he give your tithes back? IF he teaches prayer heals?

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Esther

, and not COULD happen and show me where he was wrong!

Let's make this easy and show us where he was right...

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Revelationist

Even though he is consitently wrong.... : ) Wow...

Where has he been consistently wrong?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Esther

Give me an example of what you refer to as "but there is a parallel between those who support horoscopic bible doctrine".

The basis and success of horoscopes is that they never commit to sure-fire specifics but rather cryptic yet positive sounding generalities that can apply to many situations ....

In a similar fashion .... IB never commits to his predictions but makes them nonetheless ... making sure to lace it w/ non-committal language but still make it believable by weaving it w/ today's headlines, personal hunches and his interpretation of truth ....

of course ... you are encouraged to get the latest revelations of the future by purchasing his materials which btw have attacked Oneness preterists and others with divergent eschatological views.