Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved - Page 25

LUKE2447 · #**241** 07-09-2008, 12:50 PM

Why is it stupid? It points to inconsistancy of many denoms.
According to Dr. Mercola in his view one french fry is bad as one cigarette for your health. Not sure if he is right or wrong but to say that does not make you sit back and adjust your view to food I really don't know what will.

Let's send the smoker to hell but slice up ol porky over here and use every inch of it's body which God clearly pointed out as unclean and an adomination unto you.

Rico · #**242** 07-09-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Brother, there are many posters on here. How can you think that was personally directed at anyone specifically?

Ok. If it gets reported and you find yourself in banland for a few days, just remember Rico tried to get ya to change it. Carry on.

Baron1710 · #**243** 07-09-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

So based on your previous statement that smoking was a sin, one who continues to smoke is unsaved?

What about men like Spurgeon who lived before there was evidence that smoking could be harmful to your health was it a sin then, or is sin only in the knowledge that it can be harmful?

Bump for PP

Rico · #**244** 07-09-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Why is it stupid? It points to inconsistancy of many denoms.
According to Dr. Mercola in his view one french fry is bad as one cigarette for your health. Not sure if he is right or wrong but to say that does not make you sit back and adjust your view to food I really don't know what will.

Let's send the smoker to hell but slice up ol porky over here which God clearly pointed out as unclean and an adomination unto you.

What other parts of the OT law do you feel obligated to follow, L?

Nahum · #**245** 07-09-2008, 12:54 PM

Smoking is not the same as over-eating.

People have to eat, and struggle with portions and genetics.

Nobody has to smoke.

Smoking hurts the smoker, the people around him, and is a horrible example for all.

Addiction is chemical, biological and spiritual.

Any substance that is addicting, and controls your moods and actions is sinful.

Baron1710 · #**246** 07-09-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Smoking is not the same as over-eating.

People have to eat, and struggle with portions and genetics.

Nobody has to smoke.

Smoking hurts the smoker, the people around him, and is a horrible example for all.

Addiction is chemical, biological and spiritual.

Any substance that is addicting, and controls your moods and actions is sinful.

Coffee?

LUKE2447 · #**247** 07-09-2008, 12:56 PM

Seems like everything has to be a heaven or hell issue to do what God considers best. Then we ignore God's will for you in food and all you hear is "don't make a law out of it" Then send everyone else to hell for any other type of addiction. AT LEAST BE CONSISTENT!

Michael Phelps · #**248** 07-09-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Brother, there are many posters on here. How can you think that was personally directed at anyone specifically?

When you quote someone's post, and make a statement like this you could create the perception that you are referring to them.

Please refrain from any such statements in the future.

Nahum · #**249** 07-09-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Bump for PP

Baron, I'll leave that to God.

But I will not excuse sinful behavior - whether it's my sin or someone else's.

There seems to be an attempt to normalize that sinful behavior on this thread, which is regrettable.

Why not just say that smoking is a sin some folks struggle with, just like others struggle with gossip, lying, drinking, whoremongering and so on?

Why not try to help people find deliverance from a habit that has no benefit whatsoever?

Appealing to and appeasing fleshly lusts is contrary to Galatians 5.

Brad Murphy · #**250** 07-09-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Why is it stupid? It points to inconsistancy of many denoms.
According to Dr. Mercola in his view one french fry is bad as one cigarette for your health. Not sure if he is right or wrong but to say that does not make you sit back and adjust your view to food I really don't know what will.

Let's send the smoker to hell but slice up ol porky over here and use every inch of it's body which God clearly pointed out as unclean and an adomination unto you.

What are your thoughts on mixing different clothing materials together?