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09-10-2008, 12:12 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
Bill, if you read this, thank you. I appreciate it and am glad you saw it.
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09-10-2008, 12:24 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
bro price consider grace extended, and forgiveness, though i dont remember being directly offended, i like to give grace, i need it sometimes, dt
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09-10-2008, 12:39 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
We're all entitled to opinions ... Love is longsuffering.
We all choose ... everyday.
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Do you ever have a converasation with him about sitting for a long while, be teachable, face up to his emotional instablility and being accountable for his life to someone who can speak honesty about him and he not run away.
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09-10-2008, 01:02 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
Praying for Bill.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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09-10-2008, 01:06 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
sigh
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09-10-2008, 01:08 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
I like Bill ok,I would never harm him,but he has done this so much that people begin to distrust him.
I care about him and wish him God's best and we all make mistakes.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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09-10-2008, 01:31 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
We're all entitled to opinions ... Love is longsuffering.
We all choose ... everyday.
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Love is indeed longsuffering but BP's behaviour is beyond just needing people to be longsuffering. He needs psychological and spiritual help.
Please don't try to paint him as just a normal person seeking truth. That does not help him in any way. It is the same logic of excusing a violent murder because the murderer fell out of his high chair when an infant.
I have no ill will against BP and think he is personally a nice guy. However I don't for one minute think he lives within the bounds of normalness, reasonableness, etc. He has serious stability issues.
It is ironic that while his greatest deisre appears to be taken seriously as a minister his very actions have totally wiped out any credibility he might have with any group of believers trinitarian or oneness.
I pray that BP someday overcomes his serious issues. In the meantime his posts, blogs, website, have no more meaning than the mindless rants of psycho bloggers all over the internet.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-10-2008, 01:42 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
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Originally Posted by CC1
Love is indeed longsuffering but BP's behaviour is beyond just needing people to be longsuffering. He needs psychological and spiritual help.
Please don't try to paint him as just a normal person seeking truth. That does not help him in any way. It is the same logic of excusing a violent murder because the murderer fell out of his high chair when an infant.
I have no ill will against BP and think he is personally a nice guy. However I don't for one minute think he lives within the bounds of normalness, reasonableness, etc. He has serious stability issues.
It is ironic that while his greatest deisre appears to be taken seriously as a minister his very actions have totally wiped out any credibility he might have with any group of believers trinitarian or oneness.
I pray that BP someday overcomes his serious issues. In the meantime his posts, blogs, website, have no more meaning than the mindless rants of psycho bloggers all over the internet.
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Yep. You've made this point about 3245215634 times, CC.
I'm sure we are all aware where you stand ... your threads and posts on that matter are emphatic, redundant and hyperbolic ....and some of us see them very similar to " personal attacks" you condemned on men like Dr. Vaughn ...
It gets as old as the very posts and mindset you seek to berate, IMO. So you think he needs help ... do you have any idea how many times you made this point? Seriously.
When did you become a pschoanalyst?
If his posts mean nothing ... why give them the constant weight you exert in opining about them?? ... might be a legitimate question.
You either forgive or you choose not to ... simple
Carry on.
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09-10-2008, 01:45 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
DA,
Forgiving does not mean you have to be an idiot. I forgive people all of the time but it doesn't mean it wipes the slate clean in the sense I no longer know what they are.
If someone cheats me I can forgive them but forgiveness does not dictate I put myself in a situation for them to cheat me again.
The same thing here. One can repeatedly forgive BP for his silliness but that doens't mean we have to act like he isn't silly.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-10-2008, 01:46 PM
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Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
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Originally Posted by CC1
DA,
Forgiving does not mean you have to be an idiot. I forgive people all of the time but it doesn't mean it wipes the slate clean in the sense I no longer know they are not what they are.
If someone cheats me I can forgive them but forgiveness does not dictate I put myself in a situation for them to cheat me again.
The same thing here. One can repeatedly forgive BP for his silliness but that doens't mean we have to act like he isn't silly.
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More energy and keystrokes on an issue that has no value and is meaningless to you ....
Blah ... blah ... blah.
Yet another CC1 post aimed/lobbed at BP.
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