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Old 12-16-2008, 11:39 AM
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We have a lot of going on this thread!
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:40 AM
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Now THAT sounds like living by the letter of the law and not the spirit. Spirit gives permission to hedge convictions for your family, to protect them. I would never call my Dad a liar because he kept me from some thing that were not explicit in scripture. A loving dad does that. He's consistent with Scripture in spirit.
You know the key word here is LOVING
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:41 AM
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This is true,

Although a mother when she is expecting a child can overeat with some residual problems- but the fetus will remain normal-

But a mother who expecting who drinks alcohol can damage the fetus with fetal alcohol syndrome which there is no cure for but is %100 preventable.
That is one of the most pitiful things I have seen in my life. Back in the days of the 60's & 70's so many young girls drinking and doing drugs when they were pregnant. I was one of them with my first child. I was just a kid, and I did know right from wrong. But of course when you are living that life it doesn't matter. And there are consequences that you live with the rest of your life. As do the kids.
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So, let me ask a question of the pastors on this thread - do you preach against smoking?

Do you make it a heaven or hell issue?

And, if you do, what scripture do you use?
Phelps, this is a waste of time. Then you will get back on the Glutton horse and ask them why they don't give equal time to other sins. The Fairness Doctrine. Can we ask YOU a question? Do you believe it's okay for a Child of God to smoke cigarettes? You believe it pleases God?
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:43 AM
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You know the key word here is LOVING
Agreed.
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We have a lot of going on this thread!
And diversity.
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And diversity.
A..... rainbow!
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:45 AM
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Phelps, this is a waste of time. Then you will get back on the Glutton horse and ask them why they don't give equal time to other sins. The Fairness Doctrine. Can we ask YOU a question? Do you believe it's okay for a Child of God to smoke cigarettes? You believe it pleases God?
*******************NEWS FLASH******************** NO ONE HAS SAID THEY BELIEVE IT IS OK FOR A CHILD OF GOD TO SMOKE CIGARETTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is what you guys that do not like our position on this keep trying to say -once again NO ON HAS SAID THAT!!!!!! SMOKING IS DISGUSTING, HORRIBLE FOR YOUR BODY THE QUESTION IS WHY IS OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HARMFUL TO YOUR BODY NOT PREACHED AGAINST AS WELL no one can seem to really give an answer the question.
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Phelps, this is a waste of time. Then you will get back on the Glutton horse and ask them why they don't give equal time to other sins. The Fairness Doctrine. Can we ask YOU a question? Do you believe it's okay for a Child of God to smoke cigarettes? You believe it pleases God?
Are you a pastor?
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*******************NEWS FLASH******************** NO ONE HAS SAID THEY BELIEVE IT IS OK FOR A CHILD OF GOD TO SMOKE CIGARETTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is what you guys that do not like our position on this keep trying to say -once again NO ON HAS SAID THAT!!!!!! SMOKING IS DISGUSTING, HORRIBLE FOR YOUR BODY THE QUESTION IS WHY IS OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HARMFUL TO YOUR BODY NOT PREACHED AGAINST AS WELL no one can seem to really give an answer the question.
No pun intended, but here's where they start throwing out the smoke screen. Check out newbie's response to my question.
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