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Old 12-16-2008, 12:35 PM
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Lol, you guys kill me.

No one is saying smoking is ok, we're just asking why the same amount of emphasis is not placed on other things that are just as dangerous to one's health?????????????????????????

Argh, I give up!

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Phelps just a few posts ago YOU said smoking IS okay (not a sin). Don't go ballistic. It's what you said. Remember, you were being honest...
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Lol, you guys kill me.

No one is saying smoking is ok, we're just asking why the same amount of emphasis is not placed on other things that are just as dangerous to one's health?????????????????????????

Argh, I give up!

Back to work!
I bumped several posts where members said it wasn't a sin.
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Phelps just a few posts ago YOU said smoking IS okay (not a sin). Don't go ballistic. It's what you said. Remember, you were being honest...
Ha, sometimes I think you're St. Mark in disguise.

Where did I say smoking was ok?
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I bumped several posts where members said it wasn't a sin.
I only saw the one post you bumped.
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Oh brother, not you too.

I'm tired of the old "if anyone questions a teaching, they must not believe in preaching against ANY sin" refrain.

I doubt you'll find one person on this forum who condones smoking, but some of the same people who put smokers in hell laugh about Apostolics over eating.

Ferd, you have to acknowledge that we've made some issues our "hot buttons" throughout the years, but some other equally dangerous issues we've ignored, and even laughed about.

Yea. me too. But only in that i read here the justification of smoking ("May I smoke here") because someone else sins in some other way.

MP, it isnt that this place is becoming anti-apostolic. Its that some of this stuff is just down right un-christian.


... unless you are a methodist and then you can be a preacher and gay at the same time...


and least we forget, the Methodists were the orriginal Protestant Holiness people....

I wonder how long until we become like them....considering we came from them?
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Ha, sometimes I think you're St. Mark in disguise.

Where did I say smoking was ok?
Okay, Phelps. Let's get you on the record again. Is it a sin to smoke? If so, does sin keep you from heaven?
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Ha, sometimes I think you're St. Mark in disguise.

Where did I say smoking was ok?
LOL St Mark in disguise! Careful now. I know how much you hate to be called Fred (thanks to someone who posted the explanation!!) hahaha

If this whole post is "we really should preach more against gluttony" I don't think it would have gone this far. All would say "amen".
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Okay, Phelps. Let's get you on the record again. Is it a sin to smoke? If so, does sin keep you from heaven?
Well, apparently, I already answered that!

I'll just wait for you to find my answer and repost it.
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LOL St Mark in disguise! Careful now. I know how much you hate to be called Fred (thanks to someone who posted the explanation!!) hahaha

If this whole post is "we really should preach more against gluttony" I don't think it would have gone this far. All would say "amen".
That's been my premise all along, but you guys kept telling me I was saying smoking was ok.

Again, my argument is for consistency!
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Yea. me too. But only in that i read here the justification of smoking ("May I smoke here") because someone else sins in some other way.

MP, it isnt that this place is becoming anti-apostolic. Its that some of this stuff is just down right un-christian.


... unless you are a methodist and then you can be a preacher and gay at the same time...


and least we forget, the Methodists were the orriginal Protestant Holiness people....

I wonder how long until we become like them....considering we came from them?
Ferdinand,

Watching the change in some of these folks over the last four years has been absolutely incredible.

I have seen them go a long way down that proverbial slippery slope.

Where will they stop, is the only question.
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