Renda the vast majority of "christians" now believe that preaching against anything is just being mean and controling.
in fact you look at the posts around here and you will fine more people who think we shouldnt tell folk about sin anyway.
Oh brother, not you too.
I'm tired of the old "if anyone questions a teaching, they must not believe in preaching against ANY sin" refrain.
I doubt you'll find one person on this forum who condones smoking, but some of the same people who put smokers in hell laugh about Apostolics over eating.
Ferd, you have to acknowledge that we've made some issues our "hot buttons" throughout the years, but some other equally dangerous issues we've ignored, and even laughed about.
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
I'm tired of the old "if anyone questions a teaching, they must not believe in preaching against ANY sin" refrain.
I doubt you'll find one person on this forum who condones smoking, but some of the same people who put smokers in hell laugh about Apostolics over eating.
Ferd, you have to acknowledge that we've made some issues our "hot buttons" throughout the years, but some other equally dangerous issues we've ignored, and even laughed about.
It simply amazes me that one can find a valid excuse for a sinful behavior by suggesting that some other behavior is just as sinful.
Smoking damages a body and is very addictive and unless one smokes in a vacuum sealed chamber, smoking hurts those around you.
If you want to have a discussion about over eating, then fine. We have done that many times. Its a worthy discussion.
You want to talk about the evil of pork, great, we have done that too and it is a worthy discussion.
You want to talk about the evils of caffeine great! We have discussed that more than once too....
But PLEASE people, none of those things is an excuse for lighting up and ingesting tobacco into your lungs. Smoking damages the body. period. end of discussion. it damages the body very clearly, it kills people, it harms those around the smoker, and it has an addictive nature that keeps you coming back for more.
One cannot smoke in moderation and not damage your body. One cannot smoke on occasion for recreation and not damage your body.
No amount of bacon or fried chicken or chicken fried in bacon grease undoes the simple fact that smoking DAMAGES the body!
Doing willfull damage to the Temple of God is a SIN.
If you are attempting to justify smoking using ANY argument at all, you are attempting to justify sin. period.
Some complain that AFF has become "Post-Apostolic". This thread makes me wonder if we have "Apostolics" that have really become Post-Christian.
I really haven't posted much on AFF for a while, until the past few days.
I have noticed that the prevailing midset here has definitely become what I would describe as post-Apostolic.
The sheer hostility that meets anything resembling what would be considered mainstream conservative Apostolic thought is mind boggling.
It's like there are these little gangs of roving trolls waiting for an opportunity to dog pile anyone who suggests that Acts 2:38 is essential, or that holiness standards are a good idea.
Things really, really have changed here, and this thread is yet another example.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
I question some people's reasoning but not the issues themselves.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
I really haven't posted much on AFF for a while, until the past few days.
I have noticed that the prevailing midset here has definitely become what I would describe as post-Apostolic.
The sheer hostility that meets anything resembling what would be considered mainstream conservative Apostolic thought is mind boggling.
It's like there are these little gangs of roving trolls waiting for an opportunity to dog pile anyone who suggests that Acts 2:38 is essential, or that holiness standards are a good idea.
Things really, really have changed here, and this thread is yet another example.
What we question is inconsistency, Amos.
But, in the words of an immortal former FCF/NFCF poster, "Consistency is over rated"
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
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