I voted "I don't know". Betcha never saw that coming!
I guess I fit def 2 to a large extent, though I don't care for the word "attack". I like "challenge" better. As to the question, I don't think it can be answered definitively for everyone, and the wording is "Should we...". It's not a job for the faint of heart.
But "yes" could have worked, too. I think everyone should challenge things. Everything. Why cling so tenaciously? If you are right about something -- anything -- it will hold up to scrutiny.
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noun
2. someone who attacks cherished ideas or traditional institutions
Didn't Jesus do this? Maybe not attack, but challenge?
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Originally Posted by jaamez
I agree with you. The definition says an iconoclast is a "breaker or destroyer" and someone who "attacks". This should be a grim reminder to everyone that before we tear something down, we should build something up that can serve as a stable, suitable alternative.
I think questioning is good. However, not questioning to tear down, but questioning to establish a foundation upon which to build.
I have people forward things to me all the time about "you name it!" Some of these are pretty radical things. I don't forward things and I don't get on the bandwagon for the next coming crisis. I DO want to believe in something. I'm skeptical because I don't want to be a sucker. But when I've done my "homework" I'm a pitbull for or against something I'm convinced about. At least until I can be proven wrong....again! And it DOES happen!!!
in the context of AFF and the Apostolic movement MOW, it is my humble opinion that you are happy to have done a good deal of both questioning and tearing down....
And based on at least one very very very long thread here on AFF, it seems to me that you fancy yourself as some sort of iconoclast where certain Oneness Pentecostal doctrines are concerned....
not a shot, just my own personal observation...
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in the context of AFF and the Apostolic movement MOW, it is my humble opinion that you are happy to have done a good deal of both questioning and tearing down....
And based on at least one very very very long thread here on AFF, it seems to me that you fancy yourself as some sort of iconoclast where certain Oneness Pentecostal doctrines are concerned....
not a shot, just my own personal observation...
You have a right to your observation......So, what, in your opinion, constitutes a "good deal" of questioning and tearing down?
No shot taken, just a personal question spurred from a personal observation.
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You have a right to your observation......So, what, in your opinion, constitutes a "good deal" of questioning and tearing down?
No shot taken, just a personal question spurred from a personal observation.
my brother, my second paragraph serves as context. you have at least one extremely long threAd here on AFF that I would point to. no need to go beyond that.
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my brother, my second paragraph serves as context. you have at least one extremely long threAd here on AFF that I would point to. no need to go beyond that.
OK, so 1 thread, 1 subject constitutes a "good deal" of questioning and tearing down. Hmmmmmmmm.......as I said, you have a right to your opinion. That is the great thing about an open forum.
From your perspective and knowing where you stand, I can see how you might think so.
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OK, so 1 thread, 1 subject constitutes a "good deal" of questioning and tearing down. Hmmmmmmmm.......as I said, you have a right to your opinion. That is the great thing about an open forum.
From your perspective and knowing where you stand, I can see how you might think so.
1 thread with quite a lot in it that explains quite a lot about you. You are comfortable in your own skin (and thats a good thing), I am not making a judgment here just an observation.
the one thread serves as a clear indicator but we both know there is more and there is no need to delve deeper.
There are a LOT of Apostolic Iconoclasts mucking about the internet these days. Most want to rebuild their own version from the rubble.
In some ways I fit that mold too. Im just not trying to distroy the structure and the foundations.... more like moving some furniture around and switching out some of the pictures on the walls....
others seem to have wrecking ball and a jack hammer. Its that wreckingball and jackhammer that cause the most alarm for those of us that are.... coming from my perspective? Standing where I stand?
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1 thread with quite a lot in it that explains quite a lot about you. You are comfortable in your own skin (and thats a good thing), I am not making a judgment here just an observation.
the one thread serves as a clear indicator but we both know there is more and there is no need to delve deeper.
There are a LOT of Apostolic Iconoclasts mucking about the internet these days. Most want to rebuild their own version from the rubble.
In some ways I fit that mold too. Im just not trying to distroy the structure and the foundations.... more like moving some furniture around and switching out some of the pictures on the walls....
others seem to have wrecking ball and a jack hammer. Its that wreckingball and jackhammer that cause the most alarm for those of us that are.... coming from my perspective? Standing where I stand?
And I would only respond that the "wrecking ball" swings both ways and usually only recognized as swinging ONE way. At least that's my observation.
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