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[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I enjoy it when I grow it.

But, here's my point - what doctrines can we allow on here and put our stamp of approval on?

Seems that I remember that there were folks who wanted some "one steppers" banned because this is an Apostolic forum and they obviously aren't Apostolic, according to some.

But, doctrines such as "facial hair will send someone to hell" should just be accepted and not challenged?

Oh, I see where you are going with your thoughts! Well, goodness, then I don't know, Michael! What do we do?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I enjoy it when I grow it.

But, here's my point - what doctrines can we allow on here and put our stamp of approval on?

Seems that I remember that there were folks who wanted some "one steppers" banned because this is an Apostolic forum and they obviously aren't Apostolic, according to some.

But, doctrines such as "facial hair will send someone to hell" should just be accepted and not challenged?

Michael, any doctrine can be challenged, it is the "ATTITUDE" in which it is posted that is the issue.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Ron

Michael, I hope we could discuss this without throwing dirt.
Poster A believes that there are some things that the Bible doesn't plainly state that a man of God preaches is necessary for us to keep our Salvation.Call it Standards if you will.

Poster B believes that because it isn't plainly stated it isn't needed, poster A responds that there will be a following away from true doctrine & separation & this is just another sign.

Where do you draw the line?
For the record, I do not believe in muzzling ministry.
I do believe you as an individual have an obligation to find people of like precious faith & teaching to which you can submit.

Holiness & Separation isn't always as clear as one would like to think.

I guess this is where our thought patterns diverge, Ron.

I don't think there is anything that the Bible doesn't clearly state that is necessary for me to keep my salvation.

I think that if a man preaches something not stated in the Bible as necessary for my salvation, he's adding to the Word.

Paul said that if even an angel from heaven preached any other doctrine than HE preached, let that man be accursed.

ANd, I'm not throwing dirt - just stating my opinion.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Oh, I see where you are going with your thoughts! Well, goodness, then I don't know, Michael! What do we do?

Stop complaining and just post? (not directed at you)

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Oh, I see where you are going with your thoughts! Well, goodness, then I don't know, Michael! What do we do?

Ok, I bow out.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Just some?

You mean there isn't any?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Cindy

I agree about the familiarity part. There are certain posters that I started responding to that way. I finally stopped responding to them at all. And am just lately feeling I can post with again. It was my problem not theirs.

Good point, Cindy. We should draw back and assess our thoughts and feelings. Sometimes a break is good! I think we all want to be kind and respectful, then get caught up in the passion - as someone said.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

THANK YOU!!!!

It's a self-moderated board too. If someone is out of line, report it. We discuss and come to a conclusion and no matter what some think our admin team is fair and balanced. If you don't believe me - check out who's been banned -- there is NO special treatment of one "side" over the other.

I just wish we could completely lose the "side" term.

Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner

I agree with this post. I don't tell people that they are going to Hell. I'm not the judge. I have my OPINIONS, but living in the state I do, the MOST CONSERVATIVE state in the union, I understand about having certain beliefs "crammed down your throat" (FYI.....this is not the current administration or the one before, either)

What I object, violently, to is that, at times, people can say HARSH things and get away with it, but then when someone comes in defends what they believe just as harshly, they are crucified. Because they've been hurt by the machinery, they think that they are justified in "TRASHING" the things others hold dear.

I understand about people standing up for what they believe. I hope they do. I encourage it, but don't trash and bash and broad brush (I know have been guilty of this, but being here has taught me to weigh my words carefully!!! ) That goes for either side.

I literally HATE the labels. Let's all just be friends and have some lively discussions. Let's stop the bashing on BOTH sides of the coin.

I hate labels, as well, but this 'us' and 'them' mentality has been around a long time.

When I was a young'un there were certain Apostolic churches we didn't fellowship with because they weren't Apostolic enough, and it continues today.

I wish it would cease...not sure if it ever will...

Now back into my self-imposed hibernation...

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Oh, I see where you are going with your thoughts! Well, goodness, then I don't know, Michael! What do we do?

My goodness - didn't we just have this lesson. Do you KNOW where he's going with his thoughts or do you THINK you know? LOL!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Ok, I bow out.

Michael,
I'm being serious with you! Why do you always think I want to fight with you! I wish you would stop!!